Does the Post's Jason La Canfora Hate the Skins?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Also, as an organization I think the Redskins have burned a lot of bridges and made plenty of folks mad. Remember when the skins got rid of all the season tickets the Post owned? Sure JLC wasn't happy about that.

Well I will say that, as someone who was part of the local DC media for 5 years, the Redskins were far and away the most difficult team to deal with. I know a lot of people who grow up fans and then become part of "the business" and suddenly they're not fans anymore. Didn't happen to me (except in the case of Green) but I used to see it happen all the time.

A big reason is that the Redskins have always known they're the shit in DC. No matter what, it's a Redskins town. But what happened in the late 1990s, early 00s was that the Redskins had to start sharing their space in the local sports media with others-the Terps became national champions, their football team was in legit Bowl games, the Wizards got Michael Jordan, the Caps and their hotshot young owner got Jagr, and so on. So the Redskins started pulling back on giving inside scoops locally and, well I don't want to on a long-winded rant here. Just saying that, yeah you're right Daseal, there have been some burnt bridges in the past several years.

[bedlamVR]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Also, as an organization I think the Redskins have burned a lot of bridges and made plenty of folks mad. Remember when the skins got rid of all the season tickets the Post owned? Sure JLC wasn't happy about that.

But hang on half of the reason the Skins took away the season tickets was the rash of irresponsible reporting by the post (anouncing players had been cut who hadn't trying to stir up ticking issues that didn't exist etc etc...) and the other part of it was the people from the Post rarely used the tickets, handing them off to friends family memebers and touts . Historically the Skins only gave season tickets to the Post following a falling out between the JKC and other media outlets in the area and the Post became the unoffical voice of the team .

As the Post changed and the Skins were sold the relationship changed....


I also don't get the hatred for Snyder on here it makes people sound like jilted ex-girlfriends...do people not remember Norv ...how are we going toscrew things up this year...Turner reign of terror between 1993 and 2000

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Daseal

The folks who annoy me are the people that act as if the skins do no wrong.

I'm not sure why you get annoyed by people that act as if the skins can do no wrong and do not gripe about the people that act as if the skins can do no right. Kinda hypocritical.

Originally Posted by Daseal

Part of the reason I hate listening to games on Redskins radio, too one sided.

Come on, you can't really expect anything different. I wouldn't expect Ford to run ads on TV saying, "Our cars break down within 5 years because they are P.O.S., but buy em anyways."

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I'm not sure why you get annoyed by people that act as if the skins can do no wrong and do not gripe about the people that act as if the skins can do no right. Kinda hypocritical.

Well played sir

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Im with Beemn. No one will agree with everything these guys say, but you'll agree with some of it. I totally see, and somewhat agree with what a lot of national media says about us, and JLC probably is a little bitter and I understand why. The folks who annoy me are the people that act as if the skins do no wrong. Part of the reason I hate listening to games on Redskins radio, too one sided.

Also, as an organization I think the Redskins have burned a lot of bridges and made plenty of folks mad. Remember when the skins got rid of all the season tickets the Post owned? Sure JLC wasn't happy about that.

I think they were selling some of those tickets.

The Post as an institution has a somewhat distorted view of itself. They're just a newspaper. They seem to think they hold some sort of sacred public trust but they don't. They are a business like any other business. I love the fact that the Redskins broadcast the player and coaches interviews "unfiltered". I can draw my own conclusions from the primary source without having to be limited to two-sentence sound bites or the unnecessary acumulation of adjectives that is the hallmark of a reporter who has had his feelings hurt or feels slighted.

Also, Bramm Weinstein took JLC's side against Gibbs on the radio yesterday, much to the annoyance of Larry Micheal. Bramm works for the Skins (for now).

[GMScud]

Anyone consider the fact that Gibbs may be trying to protect the young undrafted rook? Gibbs may feel that the Skins NEED Heyer around this year, and can you think of any more of a confidence boost for an undrafted rookie than to have a 3-time Super Bowl champion coach personally defend you? Now Heyer feels more confidence, and more importantly, more of a sense of obligation to the team. If that's the case, coaching brilliance.

[bedlamVR]

One of the worst things that has happened to the WP in the last 6 months is Howard Bryant has left . JLC is one step away from Sally Jenkins ...he is only happy when it rains he had made his mind Heyer was going to suck before he took a snap and only last week was advocating trading Brunell for a fith and then using that to trade for Kendell, so by his logic a valuble backup and a draft pick and ensuing cap hit is less harmful than a 5th/possible 4th pick -- okay whatever

JLC also has a tendency to ermm make stuff up...ayone else remeber hearing anything other than what JLC was spouting about Denver looking to trade Bly before his contract got redone ...it was all JLC speculation, not even Blys agent knew anything about it . Also does anyone know who he is talking to when he quotes NFL officials ? Does that include parking attendents...janitors... who ?...and tell me what professional journalist gets into slanging matches in the media with guys off a message board ?

JLC is good on occasion but there are better sources ...one other thing that struck me and put the final nail in the coffin for me is as an english man i hat e, HATE, soccer it is a game for girls, homosexuals and homosexuals who want to be girls ...ahem....and anyway Jason is a BIG MLS fan gushing over the appearance of David Beckham for Galaxy in Washington this past week ....shesh

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by bedlamVR

One of the worst things that has happened to the WP in the last 6 months is Howard Bryant has left . JLC is one step away from Sally Jenkins ...he is only happy when it rains he had made his mind Heyer was going to suck before he took a snap and only last week was advocating trading Brunell for a fith and then using that to trade for Kendell, so by his logic a valuble backup and a draft pick and ensuing cap hit is less harmful than a 5th/possible 4th pick -- okay whatever

JLC also has a tendency to ermm make stuff up...ayone else remeber hearing anything other than what JLC was spouting about Denver looking to trade Bly before his contract got redone ...it was all JLC speculation, not even Blys agent knew anything about it . Also does anyone know who he is talking to when he quotes NFL officials ? Does that include parking attendents...janitors... who ?...and tell me what professional journalist gets into slanging matches in the media with guys off a message board ?

JLC is good on occasion but there are better sources ...one other thing that struck me and put the final nail in the coffin for me is as an english man i hat e, HATE, soccer it is a game for girls, homosexuals and homosexuals who want to be girls ...ahem....and anyway Jason is a BIG MLS fan gushing over the appearance of David Beckham for Galaxy in Washington this past week ....shesh

I'm anxious to see how Jason Reid from the LA Times does as the new Redskins reporter for the Post.

If you don't like soccer, you don't like soccer. I don't know why you want to try to knock those that do

[bedlamVR]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm anxious to see how Jason Reid from the LA Times does as the new Redskins reporter for the Post.

If you don't like soccer, you don't like soccer. I don't know why you want to try to knock those that do

Try living in a country where it is the only game in town where the NFL is looked upon as steroid ridden a joke and depite the fact that it regulary draws in a TV audience for the superbowl of around 4 million viewers (at 4am on a february monday morning) it gets less press than the womens soccer world cup ...which has about as many people playing as spectating ...i may have come across as a little bitter....but look if thats your thing its fine there is nothing wrong with it soccer is what it is but this guy is supposed to the beat reported for the Washington Redskins and takes time out to talk soccer

[DGreene28]

Originally Posted by bedlamVR

One of the worst things that has happened to the WP in the last 6 months is Howard Bryant has left . JLC is one step away from Sally Jenkins ...he is only happy when it rains he had made his mind Heyer was going to suck before he took a snap and only last week was advocating trading Brunell for a fith and then using that to trade for Kendell, so by his logic a valuble backup and a draft pick and ensuing cap hit is less harmful than a 5th/possible 4th pick -- okay whatever

JLC also has a tendency to ermm make stuff up...ayone else remeber hearing anything other than what JLC was spouting about Denver looking to trade Bly before his contract got redone ...it was all JLC speculation, not even Blys agent knew anything about it . Also does anyone know who he is talking to when he quotes NFL officials ? Does that include parking attendents...janitors... who ?...and tell me what professional journalist gets into slanging matches in the media with guys off a message board ?

JLC is good on occasion but there are better sources ...one other thing that struck me and put the final nail in the coffin for me is as an english man i hat e, HATE, soccer it is a game for girls, homosexuals and homosexuals who want to be girls ...ahem....and anyway Jason is a BIG MLS fan gushing over the appearance of David Beckham for Galaxy in Washington this past week ....shesh

I could tell, you write like an English prick... Spend a few minutes out on the pitch with me and I'll show you a game for girls... actually spend a few minutes on the pitch with my little sister and she'll knock you on your arse so hard you'll become a huge soccer fan like JLC. I always found people who share your opinion about soccer have no eye foot coordination, you probably have two left feet and were the last one picked in PE. You probaly used to strike out in kickball... Chump

[stu_nna]

there's definitely a rift, but hasn't Snyder went out of his way to seperate the team away from the Post? The Red Zebra radio station doesn't have any limitations of access to the team like other media outlets. I can't recall any one on one interview with JLC and team players...

[Rock Your Face]

I am no huge fan of the Post as a paper, but whether or not the pulling of their season tickets by the Skins was justified, it came across as petty and vindictive. Back to the original post about JLC:

a) Most of the gripes expressed here come from comments posted on the Redskins Insider blog, which is where I believe he has more latitude to express his own point of view.

b) The Skins deserve to be criticized when they do dumb stuff and they do dumb stuff a lot. I love the Skins, but I do get sick of people in this town that see them as incapable of doing anything stupid or wrong. It's refreshing to me have a somewhat critical eye cast upon them and that view expressed in the local media.

c) Again, I love Gibbs, but it was a bad move by him to go after JLC at a presser. It is actions like this that reinforce the Skins as being vindictive.

[JWsleep]

Originally Posted by Rock Your Face

I am no huge fan of the Post as a paper, but whether or not the pulling of their season tickets by the Skins was justified, it came across as petty and vindictive. Back to the original post about JLC:

a) Most of the gripes expressed here come from comments posted on the Redskins Insider blog, which is where I believe he has more latitude to express his own point of view.

b) The Skins deserve to be criticized when they do dumb stuff and they do dumb stuff a lot. I love the Skins, but I do get sick of people in this town that see them as incapable of doing anything stupid or wrong. It's refreshing to me have a somewhat critical eye cast upon them and that view expressed in the local media.

c) Again, I love Gibbs, but it was a bad move by him to go after JLC at a presser. It is actions like this that reinforce the Skins as being vindictive.

Good post RYF. But I agree with those who've noticed a nasty tone lately, and no doubt, Gibbs personal call-out didn't help. JLac obviously has a number of "NFL sources" who give him a very different line from what the skins say (didn't he cover the Ravens?). So he says they need a real LG, he gets smacked, then they DO get an LG, and Gibbs says "were just making the team stronger, no big deal, yatta, yatta." So there's obviously animosity. But I don't think it's Sally Jenkins type negligence--JLac works hard and his blog is generally very good, and one of the best sources of skins info, IMO.

[ncskinsfanec]

Most people in the media are morons that couldn't cut it in any other walk of life. There are very few people in the media that I have even an ounce of respect for these days, and even fewer on that formerly informative sports network, ESPN. The Post is a joke in many ways anyway.

[Drift Reality]

Originally Posted by ncskinsfanec

Most people in the media are morons that couldn't cut it in any other walk of life. There are very few people in the media that I have even an ounce of respect for these days, and even fewer on that formerly informative sports network, ESPN. The Post is a joke in many ways anyway.

Just curious - do you actually know anyone in the media?

Why is the Post a joke?