BREAKING NEWS: Vick to Enter Guilty Plea

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

The commisioner hasn't suspended Vick yet. Presumably, he can do so at any time. The Falcons will be able to cut Vick and seek repayment of unearned bonus money (around $22.5 million) as soon as he is in default of his contract - first unexcused miss of practice, meeting, etc. Once arraigned, Vick will be in default, and he can be cut. The commissioner is in no hurry to suspend or ban Vick - he will face a jail sentence, and then any suspension will make it unlikely he will be signed.

Think about Tank Johnson. He is a talented DT, who broke the law served his time, faces an eight game suspension, and has no team - therefore his suspension doesn't start until he is signed. He hasn't been signed not because no one wants to hire a felon, but because no one wants to pay him and waste a roster spot for half the year. If Vick faces a one year suspension after his incarceration, no team will waste time or money waiting for him to (a) get into shape, (b) learn an offense, (c) serve a suspension, and (d) make a roster in the face of withering criticism from the general public.

Brudlee, as we used to say in the hood, you just broke it down! Makes sense!

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

I have a question. Does the NFL suspension begin when he gets out of jail?
I would assume so. Any info there guys?

It does not suprise me that Vick decided to plead guilty, I have felt all along that's what he would eventually do. However, he will in all likelyhood be sentenced to more than the one year, and any suspention he receives after he serves his prison sentence will have to be predicated on his signing with another team. He cannot begin a suspention until he's under contract with a team. Finding a team willing to sign him will be his biggest nightmare. I've said this before; I know of no convicted felons to play in the NFL, and if Vick is successful in doing so, he will be the first.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Michael Vick's Attorney

Michael wishes to apologizes again to everyone who has been hurt by this matter.

He can't apologize to those dogs he murdered. I want to see him do a lot of time, and I don't want to see him play in the NFL again. I don't care if he goes to the Arena League, CFL, w/e, as long as he doesn't get the privilege of wearing an NFL uniform.

I do think he made the right move by accepting the plea deal though, there was no way he was gonna get out of this one. I could definitely see Goodell banning him from the league because he essentially pleaded guilty to betting on his dogs as well.

[saden1]

And the fat lady has sang! As for his suspension, I don't think it should be concurrent with his time in jail. I mean, his ass is in jail...that's not exactly a suspension is it? He should be suspended for a year after he is done with his jail time. See you in 2010 I say.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

I would think that the suspension will start once he gets out.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

That is interesting answer Brud Lee. It does make sense though.

I really think he is done in the NFL. Who will want this guy and all the baggage that will go along with him now? The public outrage over the henouis acts he has been involved with will most certainly deter any NFL team from singing him, and then having to deal with his suspension. Like I said a couple of posts ago Have fun in the arena league.

Also on Tank Johnson I heard that on Sirius 2 minute drill that the Skins and Clts we very interested in his services. I don't know how you all feel about this one.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

That is interesting answer Brud Lee. It does make sense though.

I really think he is done in the NFL. Who will want this guy and all the baggage that will go along with him now? The public outrage over the henouis acts he has been involved with will most certainly deter any NFL team from singing him, and then having to deal with his suspension. Like I said a couple of posts ago Have fun in the arena league.

Also on Tank Johnson I heard that on Sirius 2 minute drill that the Skins and Clts we very interested in his services. I don't know how you all feel about this one.

You know what, I wouldn't even say the Arena league or the CFL. Just because the NFL is perhaps through with him, doesn't automatically make Vick "signable" elsewhere.

Look, he's a PR nightmare no matter where he goes or what he does. I don't think any professional sports orginazation will be willing to jeopardize their image at the risk of having dozens of protesters in front of their arena.

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

That is interesting answer Brud Lee. It does make sense though.

I really think he is done in the NFL. Who will want this guy and all the baggage that will go along with him now? The public outrage over the henouis acts he has been involved with will most certainly deter any NFL team from singing him, and then having to deal with his suspension. Like I said a couple of posts ago Have fun in the arena league.

Also on Tank Johnson I heard that on Sirius 2 minute drill that the Skins and Clts we very interested in his services. I don't know how you all feel about this one.

amfhofi07, according to Sirius, we are interested in everyone. I have heard that about the Colts as well - they are thin at DT, are awash in Super Bowl glow and could take a little "bad press" from signing a suspendee, and play the same defensive scheme. Much more likely.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

amfhofi07, according to Sirius, we are interested in everyone. I have heard that about the Colts as well - they are thin at DT, are awash in Super Bowl glow and could take a little "bad press" from signing a suspendee, and play the same defensive scheme. Much more likely.

Very True... Very True..

We are always interested in everyone according to them. LOL

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

I guess we also need to see how the plea plays out and what he actually admits to. If he makes a statement that connects him to the killing of the dogs and the drownings and hangings then you are right in the fact that it would be very unlikely to see him in any kind of uniform in the future.

But you always have to remember that we live in a society that DOES give people 2nd, 3rd and sometimes 4th chances. Considering that most of us have done things and made mistakes that we aren't proud of. I'm fine with that.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

I guess we also need to see how the plea plays out and what he actually admits to. If he makes a statement that connects him to the killing of the dogs and the drownings and hangings then you are right in the fact that it would be very unlikely to see him in any kind of uniform in the future.

But you always have to remember that we live in a society that DOES give people 2nd, 3rd and sometimes 4th chances. Considering that most of us have done things and made mistakes that we aren't proud of. I'm fine with that.

True but Vick doesn't have any support at all, the only people supporting him are the ones saying racism is playing a role in this. And those people are the very small minority, everybody else is still most likely sickened by what he did to those dogs and they probably won't forgive him anytime soon. I for one won't be forgiving him for a very long time, if at all.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mooby

True but Vick doesn't have any support at all

I guess you haven't heard what cats have been saying.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I guess you haven't heard what cats have been saying.

But cats have no say in this discussion. At least not until someone finds a Cat to English translator. I'm sure they're all very supportive of Vick lol.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mooby

But cats have no say in this discussion. At least not until someone finds a Cat to English translator. I'm sure they're all very supportive of Vick lol.

Cats have been saying a lot lately about Vick.

You know, things like "meow, meow". I even heard one cat say "MEOW"!

Damn I'm really bored right now.

[jgalecpa]

Originally Posted by mooby

But cats have no say in this discussion. At least not until someone finds a Cat to English translator.

My wife has a pussy and I have no idea what that thing wants!