Theismann must be really slipping!

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by irish

Why would the skins be in anybody's top 5? I dont think they are in anybody's top 20. Vegas has them at 40-1 to win it all this season.

ah, the voice of negativity on the warpath has spoken. and smooty, have you met joey t.? he seems like he would be alright

[sportscurmudgeon]

Buster:

The Cardinals last won a championship in 1948. Dan Dierdorf was not even a passing thought in his dear mother's mind in 1948.

Since 1948, the Cardinals have won 1 - as in ONE - playoff game.

I suspect their "curse" goes well beyond Dan Dierdorf. And I suspect that insufficiently talented players on the field has a whole lot to do with that history of futility.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by dmek25

ah, the voice of negativity on the warpath has spoken. and smooty, have you met joey t.? he seems like he would be alright

I met him when I was 6 years old. He was signing autographs at some store. Woodward and Lothrop's I think. I have a framed personalized autograph of him and Mark Moseley. Honestly at the time I really had no clue who he was. I just wanted to be cool like my older brother and his friends so I threw a tantrum until he agreed to take me along with him

[SpeedyDuncan]

I always liked Joe the player since Notre Dame.

I'm not that fond of him as an analyst. However, he could surely help FOX or CBS. I think he could fill Brian Baldinger's shoes.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A lot of so called experts swung and missed badly on the Cards the last two years.

Yeah, it seems like it's been the trendy thing to do to pick the Cards to succeed the past few years. Theismann is still a homer and a meathead. Love him as a player though.

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

I always liked Joe. And thanks for helping get us that beautiful RING!

Can't honestly blame him for bumpimg his old team outta the top 5 after last season can ya?

We'll just HAVE TO PROVE HIM WRONG, THAT'S ALL!

I know the we're not a top five organization right now, too many front office blunders and inconsistency year to year, but my real qualm was Joey T putting the Cowboys at number three. Someone saying that about a team who hasn't won a playoff game in ten years makes me shake my head, and especially having it come from one of our greatest and most revered player's!

[That Guy]

he's right on 4/5. iggles are run much better than the roids though. best depth in the league.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by SpeedyDuncan

However, he could surely help FOX or CBS. I think he could fill Brian Baldinger's shoes.

Yeah, I could see him leaving ESPN/ABC for CBS or FOX; lord knows FOX needs serious help with their broadcast teams.

I don't see him doing college games, unless he's contractually obligated to ESPN -- which could be the case.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Beemnseven:

As I understand it, Theismann was the recipient of a real sweetheart deal from ESPN the last time they sat at the negotiating table. According to one report I read, Theismann was getting "over the air network money" (not what Madden or Aikman get but waay more than anyone on cable should hope to get). According to that report, the guy at ESPN who gave him that deal is now gone; that's the guy Danny Boy hired away from ESPN to help him run Six Flags. Isn't that just swell?

I also understand Theismann's deal has two more years on it.

So, Theismann can certainly walk away and ESPN would probably like to save the money because if Theismann walks he won't get paid. But that's not a likely thing for him to do unless one of the networks comes up with a bagload of cash to make that move "financially sensible".

Supposedly, Theismann has been "offered" the college anaylst slot alongside Brent Mussberger on ESPN/ABC games. He doesn't "have to" take that, but if he turns down ESPN's suggestion, he might get a much less attractive offer to consider - - like coverage of the Denny's Pro Bowling Tour on Sunday afternoons opposite NFL games on two of the over the air networks. At some point, he could lose his ability to say "no" and have to take what they give him as his assignment lest he violate some kind of "cooperation clause" in his sweetheart contract.

At the moment, my guess is that he will ultimately get the choice between college game analyst and talking head on one of the myriad ESPN analysis shows related to the NFL. I'm hoping for the studio job because those shows are easier to avoid than a major college football game where he and Brent "Contrived Exuberence" Mussberger could poison the well...

[Beemnseven]

I guess it all depends on where Theismann's 'heart' is -- in the booth commenting on the games, or in the studio for pre and post-game.

With the bozos FOX has, you'd think they'd jump all over Theismann if he were to walk.