We hold these truths to be self-evident...

MTK · 07-04-2004, 07:35 PM

simmer down now boys

Big C · 07-04-2004, 07:36 PM

i hate nothing, and the meh was not a "hateful" comment at all. Keep being ignorant, and trying to start conflict, as u did with me.

JWsleep · 07-04-2004, 08:04 PM

Happy birthday, USA, the greatest nation the earth has ever seen. May we live up to the great principles you are founded upon.

When those brave men of the second continental congress signed that document in Philadelphia, they were either signing the founding document of a new nation, or their death warrants. After that, they were either traitors to the British crown or the founding fathers of the USA. John Hancock (one of the richest men in the colonies) signed extra large so George the 3rd would know it was him. That, to me, is the American spirit.

If we think these times are trying (and they are!), we should recall today that others of our countrymen faced similar trials and worse. They came through those times, and so will we. We may not be perfect as a nation, but we are founded on the idea that "all men are created equal, and edowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, among them the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." We struggle at times to live up to this ideal, but at least we have it to aim for, to guide us, and to inspire us. That is why this nation is great, and why, even in dissent, we should be proud of it.

HAVE A GREAT 4TH OF JULY!!!

Sammy Baugh Fan · 07-04-2004, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big C

i hate nothing, and the meh was not a "hateful" comment at all. Keep being ignorant, and trying to start conflict, as u did with me.

"meh"

lol
peace to real posters and Hail to the Redskins in spite of some of their fans.

mike
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Big C · 07-04-2004, 08:57 PM

nice word choice, one of my favorites

saden1 · 07-04-2004, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammy Baugh Fan

" We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

You know, you could have just said happy 4th of July and we would have all been happy but then you had to add that quote. Those who wrote those words were not morally righteous men and you know why without me having to go into details.

Happy 4th of July Everyone. Make sure you hit the gym tomorrow :P

Sammy Baugh Fan · 07-05-2004, 12:05 AM

They gave you the right like in no other nation to talk bad about them 228 years later.
Bravo to them!

peace
And if "slavery" is your point I would ask you "What as an American are you doing to stop modern day slavery?" Surely you must know that African groups take other tribes into slavery still to this day.

As to if these founding Fathers were "morally righteous men" to what standards do you hold them? Were they perfect like Christ? No. But you have given no proof they are someone "not" to be thought of as ones that had a good intent.

If they did not do a perfect job at a Nation...show me a better one or by all means...start one.

~just shakes head

GOD bless America
mike

Sammy Baugh Fan · 07-05-2004, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saden1

You know, you could have just said happy 4th of July and we would have all been happy but then you had to add that quote. Those who wrote those words were not morally righteous men and you know why without me having to go into details.

Happy 4th of July Everyone. Make sure you hit the gym tomorrow :P

I ADDED a QUOTE from Our Nation's Declaration of Independance. Sorry I had a bad source of text to quote for you Sir.

peace
mike a Proud American

skinsfanthru&thru · 07-05-2004, 12:30 AM

can't you all feel the love?

I could of sworn this was a day of celebration and not argueing over trival things.

God bless america and happy b-day cpayne5 and to azskinsfan2 tommorrow as well.

That Guy · 07-05-2004, 12:45 AM

Yeah, i'd hate to think we need a moderation system to kill trolling heh... I spent today doing absolutely nothing exciting

but i'm always thankful

best wishes.

MTK · 07-05-2004, 02:06 AM

how does a happy 4th of July thread turn into such crap??

thread locked.

idiots

RedskinRat · 07-05-2004, 07:19 PM

I think we have all got Big C wrong, he was in mid conversation with his partner, who just so happens to be a sheep.

So what does 'Meh' mean? Did it get you anywhere with your sheep?

07-04-2004, 08:04 PM	#18
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,714	Happy birthday, USA, the greatest nation the earth has ever seen. May we live up to the great principles you are founded upon. When those brave men of the second continental congress signed that document in Philadelphia, they were either signing the founding document of a new nation, or their death warrants. After that, they were either traitors to the British crown or the founding fathers of the USA. John Hancock (one of the richest men in the colonies) signed extra large so George the 3rd would know it was him. That, to me, is the American spirit. If we think these times are trying (and they are!), we should recall today that others of our countrymen faced similar trials and worse. They came through those times, and so will we. We may not be perfect as a nation, but we are founded on the idea that "all men are created equal, and edowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, among them the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." We struggle at times to live up to this ideal, but at least we have it to aim for, to guide us, and to inspire us. That is why this nation is great, and why, even in dissent, we should be proud of it. HAVE A GREAT 4TH OF JULY!!! __________________ Hail from Houston!

07-05-2004, 12:05 AM	#22
Sammy Baugh Fan Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Northern Virginia, Woodbridge Age: 62 Posts: 2,507	They gave you the right like in no other nation to talk bad about them 228 years later. Bravo to them! peace And if "slavery" is your point I would ask you "What as an American are you doing to stop modern day slavery?" Surely you must know that African groups take other tribes into slavery still to this day. As to if these founding Fathers were "morally righteous men" to what standards do you hold them? Were they perfect like Christ? No. But you have given no proof they are someone "not" to be thought of as ones that had a good intent. If they did not do a perfect job at a Nation...show me a better one or by all means...start one. ~just shakes head GOD bless America mike __________________ Check out Mike Hedrick - The Next Food Network Star. Please Click and give me a Thumbs Up and Positive Comment. Thanks

07-04-2004, 07:35 PM	#16
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	simmer down now boys

07-04-2004, 07:36 PM	#17
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	i hate nothing, and the meh was not a "hateful" comment at all. Keep being ignorant, and trying to start conflict, as u did with me.

07-04-2004, 08:57 PM	#20
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	nice word choice, one of my favorites

07-05-2004, 12:30 AM	#24
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	can't you all feel the love? I could of sworn this was a day of celebration and not argueing over trival things. God bless america and happy b-day cpayne5 and to azskinsfan2 tommorrow as well.

07-05-2004, 12:45 AM	#25
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Yeah, i'd hate to think we need a moderation system to kill trolling heh... I spent today doing absolutely nothing exciting but i'm always thankful best wishes.

07-05-2004, 02:06 AM	#26
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	how does a happy 4th of July thread turn into such crap?? thread locked. idiots

07-05-2004, 07:19 PM	#27
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	I think we have all got Big C wrong, he was in mid conversation with his partner, who just so happens to be a sheep. So what does 'Meh' mean? Did it get you anywhere with your sheep?

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