Redskins should pursue Russ Grimm:

Daseal · 01-10-2007, 12:09 PM

You can't just hire a head coach away, that's called tampering. If he does a good job, we won't have a shot at him for a long long time.

JoeRedskin · 01-10-2007, 12:17 PM

In terms of long term stability, what I would love to have is:

a) Russ Grimm, Head Coach
b) Good, experienced GM
c) Team President, Joe Gibbs

No role for DS other than to sign the checks. Personnel decisions being made by the GM and coach with Gibbs being the tie-breaker. Essentially, the same triumvarite system we have now - but cutting out Cerrato and Snyder.

Not likely to happen in my lifetime.

SmootSmack · 01-10-2007, 12:27 PM

Sometimes I worry though that Russ Grimm will just be another Joe Bugel as head coach.

jsarno · 01-10-2007, 12:33 PM

I see what you're saying about bringing in Grimm, I think we'd all welcome him with open arms, however Pittsburgh won't let him go, and Grimm wont take a step down to come here. For as much as we would like to think Gibbs would step aside, Snyder would likely step in. Snyder bought Gibbs to come in and rescue a franchise in turmoil...he has since handed away a ton of his duties. I don't think Snyder would appreciate Gibbs being a 5 mil a year cheerleader.

So to sum up, Grimm is not in our radar for this year, and by next year, it will be too late.
So why not get a Darryl Green to coach the CB's?

backrow · 01-10-2007, 12:39 PM

Grimm anchored the Univ. of Pittsburgh O line along with Mark May, prior to being drafted by the Redskins.

Has helped coach the Steelers for several years, and has consistantly been mentioned as a successor to Cowher.

Who says he wants to come back to the Burgandy and Gold?

Hog1 · 01-10-2007, 01:25 PM

Good point back, I had no idea he had ties to PA other than the steelers.

sportscurmudgeon · 01-10-2007, 02:34 PM

The report is that Russ Grimm has interviewed with the Arizona Cardinals. If you REALLY have a fond place in your heart for Russ Grimm, say a little prayer that he doesn't take that job. For all the faults that the Skins' FO has and the meddlesome ownership style of Danny Boy, the Cardinals organization is far - FAR - worse.

Last championship = 1948

# playoff wins since 1948 = 1

That kind of tells you something about that franchise...

skinsfan69 · 01-10-2007, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Russ Grimm will be off the coaching market this year. If we really want to setup a stable and successful franchise, we need to start at the top. Rarely does a team have the chance to bring back a legend of a player as a coach, who has already had a fruitful coaching career as a high profile assistant. The problem is that I doubt we can get a coach of this caliber once Gibbs decides to hang it up. We can promote Williams, which personally, I'm in favor of -- but with the recent slump in the defense he wouldn't be a popular hire.

There's one thing in our way right now. We already have a head coach, and while his coaching has shown up as mediocre at best the last three years, he's too popular to fire and Snyder is infatuated with him.

My thought is this, pursue Grimm, see what it would take to hire him as our head coach right now. There are no problems with interviewing a candidate. All of this with Joe Gibbs knowing. If Gibbs wants this franchise to continue, it's time for him to hand the reigns over to Grimm who could be a stable and longtime coaching force here. However, I don't want Gibbs to step down, I want him to be given one of those assistant head coach positions. This would help Grimm get adjusted to head coaching and have someone who has seen it all to fall back on, ask questions, and learn from.

I simply don't see the Redskins able to get a head coach like Grimm once Gibbs decides he's done. Grimm will be a head coach this off-season, and I'd prefer we have him instead of any other team. Curious what you guys think.

Good PR move but it's not going to happen. We already have enough coaches.

Skinsfanmania · 01-11-2007, 11:28 PM

It's unfortunate that Marty fired Grimm. His head must have been up is a$$ when he made that decision. I'd love to have Grimm groomed under Joe Gibbs for when he does retire.

dmek25 · 01-13-2007, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It would be nice to bring him back into the fold but it's too late unfortunately. Besides, there's no guarantees regarding how he'll do as a head coach.

can someone explain all the man love for grimm? yes, i loved him as a member of the hogs. one of the all time greats. in my opinion, should be in the hall. but, why does everyone want him as a head coach? he really hasnt proven anything in the coaching ranks

Coff · 01-13-2007, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

In terms of long term stability, what I would love to have is:

a) Russ Grimm, Head Coach
b) Good, experienced GM
c) Team President, Joe Gibbs

No role for DS other than to sign the checks. Personnel decisions being made by the GM and coach with Gibbs being the tie-breaker. Essentially, the same triumvarite system we have now - but cutting out Cerrato and Snyder.

Not likely to happen in my lifetime.

Couldn't agree with you more, and I'm glad you bring this up. We need a GM, and not just a good, experienced one, but also one who does not work as proxy for Dan Snyder, or Vinny Cerrato, or any else. We can talk about coaches until we're blue in the face, but unless we have a half-way decent front office, the greatest coaching staff in the world will find it very, very difficult to have success with this organization.

As you say, not likely in my lifetime either.

Beemnseven · 01-13-2007, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

can someone explain all the man love for grimm? yes, i loved him as a member of the hogs. one of the all time greats. in my opinion, should be in the hall. but, why does everyone want him as a head coach? he really hasnt proven anything in the coaching ranks

Nostalgia. Another link to the Glory Years. Like I've said before, if Joe Gibbs can't do it, how can Grimm?

Beemnseven · 01-13-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

In terms of long term stability, what I would love to have is:

a) Russ Grimm, Head Coach
b) Good, experienced GM
c) Team President, Joe Gibbs

No role for DS other than to sign the checks. Personnel decisions being made by the GM and coach with Gibbs being the tie-breaker. Essentially, the same triumvarite system we have now - but cutting out Cerrato and Snyder.

Not likely to happen in my lifetime.

It's hard to have to admit this, but ... what has Gibbs demonstrated that he should have ANY say in personnel matters? In the same way that great coordinators don't necessarily make great head coaches, some people are great head coaches, but not great personnel guys -- Gibbs fits that mold perfectly.

By and large, the most successful teams have had two brilliant guys with separate and distinct responsibilities. That same structure was in place with Gibbs 1.0 and Bobby Beathard.

saskin · 01-13-2007, 01:56 PM

How can we have stability when we're calling for whoever our coach is to be fired when he losses a game or two? And we end up firing a coach after a season or two (minus Gibbs).

01-10-2007, 12:09 PM	#16
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Redskins should pursue Grimm: You can't just hire a head coach away, that's called tampering. If he does a good job, we won't have a shot at him for a long long time. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

01-10-2007, 12:17 PM	#17
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Redskins should pursue Grimm: In terms of long term stability, what I would love to have is: a) Russ Grimm, Head Coach b) Good, experienced GM c) Team President, Joe Gibbs No role for DS other than to sign the checks. Personnel decisions being made by the GM and coach with Gibbs being the tie-breaker. Essentially, the same triumvarite system we have now - but cutting out Cerrato and Snyder. Not likely to happen in my lifetime. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

01-10-2007, 12:27 PM	#18
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Redskins should pursue Grimm: Sometimes I worry though that Russ Grimm will just be another Joe Bugel as head coach. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-10-2007, 12:33 PM	#19
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 50 Posts: 9,534	Re: Redskins should pursue Grimm: I see what you're saying about bringing in Grimm, I think we'd all welcome him with open arms, however Pittsburgh won't let him go, and Grimm wont take a step down to come here. For as much as we would like to think Gibbs would step aside, Snyder would likely step in. Snyder bought Gibbs to come in and rescue a franchise in turmoil...he has since handed away a ton of his duties. I don't think Snyder would appreciate Gibbs being a 5 mil a year cheerleader. So to sum up, Grimm is not in our radar for this year, and by next year, it will be too late. So why not get a Darryl Green to coach the CB's? __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

01-10-2007, 12:39 PM	#20
backrow The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 36.28 x 76.22 Age: 73 Posts: 1,812	Re: Redskins should pursue Grimm: Grimm anchored the Univ. of Pittsburgh O line along with Mark May, prior to being drafted by the Redskins. Has helped coach the Steelers for several years, and has consistantly been mentioned as a successor to Cowher. Who says he wants to come back to the Burgandy and Gold? __________________ '37, '42, '83, '88, '92. Championship!

01-10-2007, 01:25 PM	#21
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Redskins should pursue Grimm: Good point back, I had no idea he had ties to PA other than the steelers. __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

01-10-2007, 02:34 PM	#22
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: Redskins should pursue Grimm: The report is that Russ Grimm has interviewed with the Arizona Cardinals. If you REALLY have a fond place in your heart for Russ Grimm, say a little prayer that he doesn't take that job. For all the faults that the Skins' FO has and the meddlesome ownership style of Danny Boy, the Cardinals organization is far - FAR - worse. Last championship = 1948 # playoff wins since 1948 = 1 That kind of tells you something about that franchise... __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

01-11-2007, 11:28 PM	#24
Skinsfanmania Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 122	Re: Redskins should pursue Grimm: It's unfortunate that Marty fired Grimm. His head must have been up is a$$ when he made that decision. I'd love to have Grimm groomed under Joe Gibbs for when he does retire.

01-13-2007, 01:56 PM	#29
saskin Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Antonio Age: 36 Posts: 355	Re: Redskins should pursue Russ Grimm: How can we have stability when we're calling for whoever our coach is to be fired when he losses a game or two? And we end up firing a coach after a season or two (minus Gibbs).

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