Redskins vs. NCAA

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-02-2007, 03:54 PM

See, all the above are good points. He keeps saying that a system can beat "physique" any day. Normally I'd agree with that, except in this case, it's so lopsided, the NFL would just destroy the college teams.

Hog1 · 01-02-2007, 03:54 PM

Total BS! Although, I would love to see OSU against an NFL (casually dismissing the Skins) team. What's one of the things you most often hear from rook's. They cannot believe how good EVERYBODY is???? Because on every college team they played against, they had to contend with one, maybe two guys as good as EVERY GUY in the NFL! No contest

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-02-2007, 03:56 PM

Here's an excerpt from our conversation going on right now:

"Friend: college atheletes are so much different then they were 10 years ago
Friend: hell look at Adrian Peterson...
MalcolmANDJemima: adrian peterson r unning behind an NFL line is different than him running behind a college line
Friend: when he was a Freshman, he could have started for any team in the NFL and have ran for 1200 yards...he is and was a physical specimen
Friend: you cant coach speed and vision

SmootSmack · 01-02-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I'll see if I can get him to sign up and read this. He's a pretty "smart" sports conversationalist except on this. I'd love to know how he'd refute everyone.

Ok, who are you talking to seriously? Gmanc711 or Daseal?

724Skinsfan · 01-02-2007, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Here's an excerpt from our conversation going on right now:

"Friend: college atheletes are so much different then they were 10 years ago
Friend: hell look at Adrian Peterson...
MalcolmANDJemima: adrian peterson r unning behind an NFL line is different than him running behind a college line
Friend: when he was a Freshman, he could have started for any team in the NFL and have ran for 1200 yards...he is and was a physical specimen
Friend: you cant coach speed and vision

I think I'm putting Friend on "The List".

TAFKAS, you've worked your way off. AMD stays for now and nothing dgack can do will ever get him off.

JoeRedskin · 01-02-2007, 04:02 PM

It would, quite literally, be a game of boys v. men, professionals v. amateurs:

NFL players range from 22-32ish and, from a purely physical standpoint, live to play football and play football to live.

The only classes Pros attend are football classes. They spend their weeks studying for the next game and the only exams they need worry about are those that occur on Sunday.

Nobody graduates from the NFL - NFL teams don't have to replace whole sections of their squad every year. Rarely, even in a "rebuilding year" will you see an entire NFL line or the majority of the skill positions be replaced. In contrast, every NCAA team loses its best players every year.

Combined with the continuity, the timing and precision required to be even a mediocre NFL offense would make any NFL offense simply unstoppable to an NCAA defense.

Finally, ask your friend this - Does he think the best High School team in america could beat the worst Division IA school? If not, why not?

JoeRedskin · 01-02-2007, 04:04 PM

After reading Friend's statements, I have this question for him - Could Adrian Peterson, on a high school team beat an NCAA team?

I would love to hear his response to that one

12thMan · 01-02-2007, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Here's an excerpt from our conversation going on right now:

"Friend: college atheletes are so much different then they were 10 years ago
Friend: hell look at Adrian Peterson...
MalcolmANDJemima: adrian peterson r unning behind an NFL line is different than him running behind a college line
Friend: when he was a Freshman, he could have started for any team in the NFL and have ran for 1200 yards...he is and was a physical specimen
Friend: you cant coach speed and vision

Sure, it's possible he could run for 1200 yds as a rookie. That's not the point. Could he do so behind OU's line against an NFL line? That's the question. Another thing. When a quarterback get's to the NFL, he has to retool his technique in order to be a good NFL quarterback, not a good college quarterback. And the same is true for every single position. The techniques have to be coached up at offensive line, defensive line, cornerback and so forth.

It took Reggie Bush most of the season to adjust to the blocking and speed of the NFL. He would constantly get caught inside and would try to depend on that USC speed to get him outside. It wasn't until then end of the season that he had his first one hundred yard game.

MTK · 01-02-2007, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Ok, who are you talking to seriously? Gmanc711 or Daseal?

I'm betting it's Joe Crisp

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-02-2007, 04:08 PM

TAF: I know. It's my only friend outside of them.

LOL
724Skinsfan: HAHA. Stupid Friend.

Redskins8588 · 01-02-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I mean the worst player on any pro roster was probably one of the best (top 3 or 4) players on his college team. The talent differential is just too great

I agree with TAFKAS, I mean even on the best college teams there are only a handfull of players that will make in in the NFL. Take OSU, lets say that 8 members from their starting Offense and Deffense make it in the NFL. That would mean that the OSU team would have 8 would be's total going up against a 53 man roster that is in the NFL...

Now, I know that OSU could have more than 8 starter make in the NFL but I was just using it for an example...

Each college team has NFL talent but every NFL team is full of talent...

12thMan · 01-02-2007, 04:09 PM

double post.

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-02-2007, 04:10 PM

Just pasted a lot of that to him, he's "Typing..." and he's been doing it for like five minutes now.

JoeRedskin · 01-02-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Just pasted a lot of that to him, he's "Typing..." and he's been doing it for like five minutes now.

This ought to be good. I await his rebuttal to joyfully smash it into smithereens and reduce his feeble argument to "could to!"

I am sure others are waiting just as eagerly.

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-02-2007, 04:16 PM

HAHAHAHAHA. He's like, "Well, that person is probably a dumbass." He didn't have anything to say.

01-02-2007, 03:54 PM	#16
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Redskins vs. NCAA See, all the above are good points. He keeps saying that a system can beat "physique" any day. Normally I'd agree with that, except in this case, it's so lopsided, the NFL would just destroy the college teams. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-02-2007, 03:54 PM	#17
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Redskins vs. NCAA Total BS! Although, I would love to see OSU against an NFL (casually dismissing the Skins) team. What's one of the things you most often hear from rook's. They cannot believe how good EVERYBODY is???? Because on every college team they played against, they had to contend with one, maybe two guys as good as EVERY GUY in the NFL! No contest __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

01-02-2007, 03:56 PM	#18
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Redskins vs. NCAA Here's an excerpt from our conversation going on right now: "Friend: college atheletes are so much different then they were 10 years ago Friend: hell look at Adrian Peterson... MalcolmANDJemima: adrian peterson r unning behind an NFL line is different than him running behind a college line Friend: when he was a Freshman, he could have started for any team in the NFL and have ran for 1200 yards...he is and was a physical specimen Friend: you cant coach speed and vision __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-02-2007, 04:02 PM	#21
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 61 Posts: 10,401	Re: Redskins vs. NCAA It would, quite literally, be a game of boys v. men, professionals v. amateurs: NFL players range from 22-32ish and, from a purely physical standpoint, live to play football and play football to live. The only classes Pros attend are football classes. They spend their weeks studying for the next game and the only exams they need worry about are those that occur on Sunday. Nobody graduates from the NFL - NFL teams don't have to replace whole sections of their squad every year. Rarely, even in a "rebuilding year" will you see an entire NFL line or the majority of the skill positions be replaced. In contrast, every NCAA team loses its best players every year. Combined with the continuity, the timing and precision required to be even a mediocre NFL offense would make any NFL offense simply unstoppable to an NCAA defense. Finally, ask your friend this - Does he think the best High School team in america could beat the worst Division IA school? If not, why not? __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

01-02-2007, 04:04 PM	#22
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 61 Posts: 10,401	Re: Redskins vs. NCAA After reading Friend's statements, I have this question for him - Could Adrian Peterson, on a high school team beat an NCAA team? I would love to hear his response to that one __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

01-02-2007, 04:08 PM	#25
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Redskins vs. NCAA TAF: I know. It's my only friend outside of them. LOL 724Skinsfan: HAHA. Stupid Friend. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-02-2007, 04:09 PM	#27
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Redskins vs. NCAA double post.

01-02-2007, 04:10 PM	#28
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Redskins vs. NCAA Just pasted a lot of that to him, he's "Typing..." and he's been doing it for like five minutes now. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-02-2007, 04:16 PM	#30
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Redskins vs. NCAA HAHAHAHAHA. He's like, "Well, that person is probably a dumbass." He didn't have anything to say. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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