Would You Want Cowher To Replace Gibbs?

The Zimmermans · 01-02-2007, 04:45 PM

Cowher gets too angry and frustrated to deal with the skins organization, he wouldnt be able to deal with snyder, just like shottenheimer

Beemnseven · 01-02-2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadianSkin

Why can't people just retire and stayed retired anymore? I mean I love the fact that Gibbs came back, but now it seems like anyone who retires is just going through the motions and there is always rumours of them coming back to coach or play with a new team. It is getting kind of silly if you ask me.

I don't think Cowher has ever said he's going to "retire". In fact, he hasn't said anything yet.

But all along the word has been that he's ready for some time off. Not that he's calling it a career.

Beemnseven · 01-02-2007, 04:56 PM

One more thing, I liked Russ Grimm, and according to many accounts, he's a great coach. But aren't we falling into a trap when all we do is yearn for the nostalgia of the glory years in Washington?

I mean here we are, three years after the return of Joe Gibbs. I was on cloud nine when he came back -- I thought, FINALLY! -- the white knight has arrived to right the ship and bring the franchise back from darkness. Well, here we are. 6-10 the first year, a last ditch rescue of the '05 season (where we were headed for disaster), and 5-11 in year 3.

At some point, we have to let go of the past. Let's stop writing checks on an account that has long been closed. If Gibbs couldn't salvage this wreck of a franchise, how can Grimm do it?

Longtimefan · 01-02-2007, 05:12 PM

First I want Gibbs to complete tenure #2 before I even think about another coach, and there's no telling where Cower will be when that happens. I would say "no" to him anyway because there's no way he and Snyder could coexist.
Second, we need a GM to hire a coach, as long as Snyder is hiring coaches, we have reason to be skeptical, his track record has not produced much thus far.
Third, we need to consider a bright young mind with a future in coaching, not some retread whose coaching skills have already been left on the field at some other team's expense. We need to do like the Jets, New Orleans, Chicago have done, hire a young coach with a future, and if successful, will limit the need for change every three years.

SmootSmack · 01-02-2007, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

One more thing, I liked Russ Grimm, and according to many accounts, he's a great coach. But aren't we falling into a trap when all we do is yearn for the nostalgia of the glory years in Washington?

I mean here we are, three years after the return of Joe Gibbs. I was on cloud nine when he came back -- I thought, FINALLY! -- the white knight has arrived to right the ship and bring the franchise back from darkness. Well, here we are. 6-10 the first year, a last ditch rescue of the '05 season (where we were headed for disaster), and 5-11 in year 3.

At some point, we have to let go of the past. Let's stop writing checks on an account that has long been closed. If Gibbs couldn't salvage this wreck of a franchise, how can Grimm do it?

Well I think it's as much to do with him being a solid coach as it is his history with the Redskins. I wish Gibbs had some hotshot young prospect on his staff that could inherit the throne so to speak. But the Gibbs' coaching tree is more like a twig unfortunately.

Regardless, I want Grimm to get a shot at being head coach once and for all. I think he deserves a shot now, especially with all the openings we might see.

redsk1 · 01-02-2007, 05:16 PM

Cowher is a great coach. His philosophy is a little bit different from the skins. Like for example, building a team from the draft, being a young defensive team, doesn't sign to many FA's, is good at evaluating talented players, etc. Year in and year out they compete for the SB. They don't always win but every year the Steelers have a legit shot at it. That's the kind of organization to model.

Longtimefan · 01-02-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by redsk1

Cowher is a great coach. His philosophy is a little bit different from the skins. Like for example, building a team from the draft, being a young defensive team, doesn't sign to many FA's, is good at evaluating talented players, etc. Year in and year out they compete for the SB. They don't always win but every year the Steelers have a legit shot at it. That's the kind of organization to model.

The Steelers are owned by the Rooney family, one long rooted in the NFL with both history and tradition on their side. The Redskins are owned by Daniel Snyder...........I rest my case.

SmootSmack · 01-02-2007, 05:30 PM

Not to hijack this thread but suppose you could choose (in a couple of years) between Fisher and Cowher, who would you take?

dmek25 · 01-02-2007, 05:32 PM

jeff fisher, no question

Longtimefan · 01-02-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Not to hijack this thread but suppose you could choose (in a couple of years) between Fisher and Cowher, who would you take?

I think Fisher would be a better fit for this team, this town. I have a feeling Cower is closer to burn-out.

ncskinsfanec · 01-02-2007, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Lets say Cowher does retire this year,decides he wants to come back next yr,skins dont make the playoffs next yr,would you want Gibbs to be fired and Cowher take over?

You people just make me want to knock my head against the wall! Fire Gibbs, are you kidding me???? You are the most unpatient people in the world!!! Why don't you people take a deep breath, okay. Have a little faith in a man who's been to the promised land three times and to the second round of the playoffs last year! This year was bad but let's have a little faith here folks!! Cowher is a very good coach, but he's no Joe Gibbs! Now if you say Cowher could take over for Gibbs once he retires again, then it might be a thought then. As far as I'm concerned Gibbs can stay with the Redskins for life, he's darn well earned it!!! I guess most of you people are either too young are too stupid to remember or realize what a darn good coach he is!!

brent · 01-02-2007, 06:35 PM

Many of you are missing the point: Cowher figures to take a couple years off and return to the NFL, likely to a team that will pay him more than the Steelers.

The timing coincides with Gibbs, who figures to coach the Skins for 2 more years.

As for Fisher vs. Cowher, I don't see Fisher being available given that he just re-upped his contract after an amazing year with Vince Young. Fisher is a great coach and a great guy, but Cowher understands "Redskin football" to the bone. Who does Jerome Bettis remind you of? Exactly.

ncskinsfanec · 01-02-2007, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by brent

Many of you are missing the point: Cowher figures to take a couple years off and return to the NFL, likely to a team that will pay him more than the Steelers.

The timing coincides with Gibbs, who figures to coach the Skins for 2 more years.

As for Fisher vs. Cowher, I don't see Fisher being available given that he just re-upped his contract after an amazing year with Vince Young. Fisher is a great coach and a great guy, but Cowher understands "Redskin football" to the bone. Who does Jerome Bettis remind you of? Exactly.

I've heard Cowher express his respect for Gibbs in the past. Also Wisenhunt and obviously Grimm hail from the first Gibbs era. They have very similiar philosophies.

Beemnseven · 01-02-2007, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ncskinsfanec

You people just make me want to knock my head against the wall! Fire Gibbs, are you kidding me???? You are the most unpatient people in the world!!! Why don't you people take a deep breath, okay. Have a little faith in a man who's been to the promised land three times and to the second round of the playoffs last year! This year was bad but let's have a little faith here folks!! Cowher is a very good coach, but he's no Joe Gibbs! Now if you say Cowher could take over for Gibbs once he retires again, then it might be a thought then. As far as I'm concerned Gibbs can stay with the Redskins for life, he's darn well earned it!!! I guess most of you people are either too young are too stupid to remember what a darn good coach he is!!

Is Paul McCartney as good today as he was with the Beatles? Was George Lucas' Episodes I, II, and III as good as IV, V, and VI ?

Sometimes, people get spent. They don't stay great forever.

I am not quitting on Joe Gibbs, and I'm not calling for him to step down. And he might, in fact, lead this team to consistent playoff contention.

But that clock is winding down.

ncskinsfanec · 01-02-2007, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Is Paul McCartney as good today as he was with the Beatles? Was George Lucas' Episodes I, II, and III as good as IV, V, and VI ?

Sometimes, people get spent. They don't stay great forever.

I am not quitting on Joe Gibbs, and I'm not calling for him to step down. And he might, in fact, lead this team to consistent playoff contention.

But that clock is winding down.

Valid point. I think Gibbs has a little more character than a couple of hippie entertainers though!

01-02-2007, 04:45 PM	#16
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 40 Posts: 937	Re: Would You Want Cowher To Replace Gibbs? Cowher gets too angry and frustrated to deal with the skins organization, he wouldnt be able to deal with snyder, just like shottenheimer __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

01-02-2007, 04:56 PM	#18
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Would You Want Cowher To Replace Gibbs? One more thing, I liked Russ Grimm, and according to many accounts, he's a great coach. But aren't we falling into a trap when all we do is yearn for the nostalgia of the glory years in Washington? I mean here we are, three years after the return of Joe Gibbs. I was on cloud nine when he came back -- I thought, FINALLY! -- the white knight has arrived to right the ship and bring the franchise back from darkness. Well, here we are. 6-10 the first year, a last ditch rescue of the '05 season (where we were headed for disaster), and 5-11 in year 3. At some point, we have to let go of the past. Let's stop writing checks on an account that has long been closed. If Gibbs couldn't salvage this wreck of a franchise, how can Grimm do it?

01-02-2007, 05:12 PM	#19
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Would You Want Cowher To Replace Gibbs? First I want Gibbs to complete tenure #2 before I even think about another coach, and there's no telling where Cower will be when that happens. I would say "no" to him anyway because there's no way he and Snyder could coexist. Second, we need a GM to hire a coach, as long as Snyder is hiring coaches, we have reason to be skeptical, his track record has not produced much thus far. Third, we need to consider a bright young mind with a future in coaching, not some retread whose coaching skills have already been left on the field at some other team's expense. We need to do like the Jets, New Orleans, Chicago have done, hire a young coach with a future, and if successful, will limit the need for change every three years. __________________ A revolution is coming and it will be televised.

01-02-2007, 05:16 PM	#21
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Would You Want Cowher To Replace Gibbs? Cowher is a great coach. His philosophy is a little bit different from the skins. Like for example, building a team from the draft, being a young defensive team, doesn't sign to many FA's, is good at evaluating talented players, etc. Year in and year out they compete for the SB. They don't always win but every year the Steelers have a legit shot at it. That's the kind of organization to model.

01-02-2007, 05:30 PM	#23
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Would You Want Cowher To Replace Gibbs? Not to hijack this thread but suppose you could choose (in a couple of years) between Fisher and Cowher, who would you take? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-02-2007, 05:32 PM	#24
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Would You Want Cowher To Replace Gibbs? jeff fisher, no question __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

01-02-2007, 06:35 PM	#27
brent Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 113	Re: Would You Want Cowher To Replace Gibbs? Many of you are missing the point: Cowher figures to take a couple years off and return to the NFL, likely to a team that will pay him more than the Steelers. The timing coincides with Gibbs, who figures to coach the Skins for 2 more years. As for Fisher vs. Cowher, I don't see Fisher being available given that he just re-upped his contract after an amazing year with Vince Young. Fisher is a great coach and a great guy, but Cowher understands "Redskin football" to the bone. Who does Jerome Bettis remind you of? Exactly.

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