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Old 12-28-2006, 02:16 PM   #16
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Re: What's Considered Success for Next Season?

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man if our defense could catch, we would hav at least 8 or 9 more picks
Every time they drop one I jusy say "Well we know why their not WR's" With that said we our coaches to work with them in catching drill which I do not know if NFL teams do but if any D needs the pratice its ours.
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Old 12-28-2006, 02:17 PM   #17
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I agree with the general thoughts here. 10+ wins.
If we fail to reach the playoffs next year, we failed as a team.

If we see another 5-8 win season, expect HUGE changes. Gibbs retirement, being the biggest. Most coaches being fired. Probably an overhaul on offense and defense. Basically we don't want to see us fail next year for the fact of how far it will set us back in terms of changes.
If Joe Gibbs, Gregg Williams, and Al Saunders can't get it done here, who the hell can??? It's not the coaching. It's the QB position. Brunell wouldn't threaten deep down the field, and Campbell is still learning.

We go as far as Campbell takes us. I think he can win 10 games after a full offseason of work.
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Old 12-28-2006, 02:17 PM   #18
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Re: What's Considered Success for Next Season?

Those hoping for an easy schedule are in for a rude awakening.

While we have pansies like Arizona and Detroit at home, and yet another away game at Tampa Bay, we'll be at New England, at the Jets, at Green Bay, and at Minnesota.

At home we've got Arizona, Buffalo, Miami, Chicago.

That's tough.
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Old 12-28-2006, 02:21 PM   #19
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Those hoping for an easy schedule are in for a rude awakening.

While we have pansies like Arizona and Detroit at home, and yet another away game at Tampa Bay, we'll be at New England, at the Jets, at Green Bay, and at Minnesota.

At home we've got Arizona, Buffalo, Miami, Chicago.

That's tough.
I have been wondering - why do we always have to play at Tampa Bay - when was the last time we got them at Fed EX?
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Old 12-28-2006, 02:24 PM   #20
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Those hoping for an easy schedule are in for a rude awakening.

While we have pansies like Arizona and Detroit at home, and yet another away game at Tampa Bay, we'll be at New England, at the Jets, at Green Bay, and at Minnesota.

At home we've got Arizona, Buffalo, Miami, Chicago.

That's tough.
green bay isn't good. plus if farve is gone it will definetly be a W
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Old 12-28-2006, 02:25 PM   #21
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I have been wondering - why do we always have to play at Tampa Bay - when was the last time we got them at Fed EX?
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Old 12-28-2006, 02:33 PM   #22
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If Joe Gibbs, Gregg Williams, and Al Saunders can't get it done here, who the hell can??? It's not the coaching. It's the QB position. Brunell wouldn't threaten deep down the field, and Campbell is still learning.

We go as far as Campbell takes us. I think he can win 10 games after a full offseason of work.
EVERYTHING is about coaching! If Campbell doesn't produce (for instance) then the coaches need to break down what he's doing wrong and coach him to success. If they leave him alone to figure it out on his own, do you think he'll ever be successful? Heck no!
If the offense doesn't do well there are other reasons...we have all the tools, saunders said so himself. So it will be on his shoulders to succeed.
Williams is getting rammed for his defense this year, and in some cases, rightfully so. He hasn't made good adjustments for holes he has in his D, but he has had injuries. A bottom 3 defense is horrible. If something is not working, then the only way to fix it is by coaching. The coaches are the generals, they run the show...if they fail, then it's their flaws that failed. The players obviously have faults in this, but coaches need to adjust to the strengths and flaws of players.
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Old 12-28-2006, 02:36 PM   #23
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Re: What's Considered Success for Next Season?

I'd like to see guys working harder in the off season. I seem to recall a very lackadaisical training camp, not playing in pads, no contact, etc. There seemed to be an attitude that the team was good last year, we'd be good this year, so why work hard in camp? There was a sense of entitlement that really shouldn't have been there.

I think this team is on the brink of being great. The offense is RIGHT there and only needs very minor adjustments. The defense needs some personnel adjustments, and most of all and attitude adjustment. If those elements come together, I think 11-5 is entirely possible.
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Old 12-28-2006, 02:36 PM   #24
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if we dont go undefeated, win the superbowl, and send 25 players to the probowl then i consider this year a failure. i mean wouldn't you?
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I'd like to see guys working harder in the off season. I seem to recall a very lackadaisical training camp, not playing in pads, no contact, etc. There seemed to be an attitude that the team was good last year, we'd be good this year, so why work hard in camp? There was a sense of entitlement that really shouldn't have been there.

I think this team is on the brink of being great. The offense is RIGHT there and only needs very minor adjustments. The defense needs some personnel adjustments, and most of all and attitude adjustment. If those elements come together, I think 11-5 is entirely possible.

I believe Gibbs has already commented that training camp will be very different next year - 2 a days will be starting a lot earlier and the Skins would be implementing/practicing a lot of their plays in preseason instead of trying to "hide things" like they did this year.

What will be different is the expectiation level will be very low for the team compared to this year. I would venture to say most publications will have our team coming in last in the NFC East and a record of 4-12 to 7-9 will be forecasted. Hopefully JC progresses fast and we come right out of the blocks with a smash mouth identity first and pound opponents into the ground. My thought is you got some pretty decent backs - why not run 35-40 times a game until the opposing defense surrenders - plus our lineman have already stated that this is what they love to do.
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Old 12-28-2006, 02:52 PM   #26
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I believe Gibbs has already commented that training camp will be very different next year - 2 a days will be starting a lot earlier and the Skins would be implementing/practicing a lot of their plays in preseason instead of trying to "hide things" like they did this year.
That's what makes Gibbs a good coach, he's constantly trying to correct things...he realizes that he messed up and he's going to try to fix it.
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Old 12-28-2006, 02:53 PM   #27
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Anything less than the playoffs is always a disaster.

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Old 12-28-2006, 03:11 PM   #28
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Re: What's Considered Success for Next Season?

rather they win saturday night and go 6-10 or 5-11 i would like to see this team do a 360 and run the record the other way around in 2007 but i guess we will have to wait and see what happens before then.
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Old 12-28-2006, 03:13 PM   #29
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If Joe Gibbs, Gregg Williams, and Al Saunders can't get it done here, who the hell can??? It's not the coaching. It's the QB position. Brunell wouldn't threaten deep down the field, and Campbell is still learning.

We go as far as Campbell takes us. I think he can win 10 games after a full offseason of work.
this is the most logical, thought out posted here, ever
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Old 12-28-2006, 03:16 PM   #30
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Re: What's Considered Success for Next Season?

10-6 to me is a good team and it is usually good enough to make the playoffs. To me 10-6 is a good season...
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