Evaluation of our Linebacking Corps

[MTK]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

This is maybe the fist time I can say I disagree w/you Matty, but only w/a caveat. We just drafted a LB at a steep price. If Rocky can start, that gives us he, Marshall & Washington, not bad. The only way I see it as a top priority is if the coaches feel they have to replace Marshalll at MLB, which is a key position in GW's D. I could see getting a MLB in the draft to groom as a replacement to LM, or in FA. Olb is less I think cause we just drafted one (If Rocky can't crack the lineup in 07 we're in trouble).
I'll agree w/CB as top priority, followed by D-line.

The problem is right now we know nothing about Rocky. At this point we're left with nothing to assume that he can step in next year and perform at a high level. Unless Rocky is an ace up the sleeve of Gregg Williams, we'll be looking for a veteran in free agency.

Not bad isn't going to cut it next year, we need to reload on defense.

[skinsfan69]

Where we really need help is on the line. A DE that can rush the passer and cause havoc is a must.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Where we really need help is on the line. A DE that can rush the passer and cause havoc is a must.

If we do get one in the draft/free agency - do you cut Wynn or Daniels or both?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Bill B

If we do get one in the draft/free agency - do you cut Wynn or Daniels or both?

I would cut Wynn and bring back Daniels as a backup. Or bring both back as backups. But neither are no longer full time starters. Daniels has not done a damn thing all year long.

[The Zimmermans]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would cut Wynn and bring back Daniels as a backup. Or bring both back as backups. But neither are no longer full time starters. Daniels has not done a damn thing all year long.

I agree, Carter has outplayed Daniels as of late

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

I agree, Carter has outplayed Daniels as of late

Daniels has been hurt, but played on passing downs. He's been beating his man consistently, he's just not fast enough to get to the qb before the throw (add to that that our cb's have been letting wr's get into their routes untouched, so the play is sped up).
Daniels & Wynn are big team guys but we do need some young dudes to give them some competition.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by Big C

i really dont think thats happening, i think hes a special teamer at most

He looked pretty good in preseason from what I remember... and a lot of draft boards last year had him sandwiched in between guys like Kirk Morrison and Lofa Tatupu.... I have a hard time believing "hes a special teamer at most"...

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The problem is right now we know nothing about Rocky. At this point we're left with nothing to assume that he can step in next year and perform at a high level. Unless Rocky is an ace up the sleeve of Gregg Williams, we'll be looking for a veteran in free agency.

Not bad isn't going to cut it next year, we need to reload on defense.

True, I only saw his jersey after the plays on sunday, didn't notice him doing anything. I sure hope he's earning his pt & he'll get more these last 3 games. If we do sign a vet LB, I don't see it being a big name like Briggs.
I agree we need to reloac on D, the problem is there is NO area that we don't desparately need some young blood in. Line, LBs, DBs, we've got senior citizen players at each position.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

True, I only saw his jersey after the plays on sunday, didn't notice him doing anything. I sure hope he's earning his pt & he'll get more these last 3 games. If we do sign a vet LB, I don't see it being a big name like Briggs.
I agree we need to reloac on D, the problem is there is NO area that we don't desparately need some young blood in. Line, LBs, DBs, we've got senior citizen players at each position.

We are older on the line than at LB or DB.

[The Zimmermans]

Yeah, I wish we had more youth in more positions on defense, these guys are old, and are only gonna get slower, more injury prone, and worse in time. Personnel improvements are a must on defense....I hope GW understands that.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The problem is right now we know nothing about Rocky. At this point we're left with nothing to assume that he can step in next year and perform at a high level. Unless Rocky is an ace up the sleeve of Gregg Williams, we'll be looking for a veteran in free agency.

Something HAS to be wrong with Rocky. If we benched Brunell for Campbell, and have nothing to play for but experience, why is Rocky not in? Our LB's are playing horribly, so I would think Rocky would be in a lot more, but he's not. What is Greg Williams not telling us?

Not bad isn't going to cut it next year, we need to reload on defense.

ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY!

Defense wins championships. Look at us last year, our d brought us to 10-6. Our offense did very little to help. This year our offense has yet again done little to help and our D sucks...thus 4-9.

[RMSkins]

Just thought I would give everybody a list of the 2007 free agent LB's with a comment.......

Lance Briggs: It would be great to get him but I think it's to unrealistic to bring him in because he will be looking for big money, and there is still a big chance that the Bears will retain him.

Na'il Diggs: Na'il has been a steady LB thourghout his career, but he has been plauged by injuries and he is getting old, although Na'il is a veteren LB and probably won't be looking for a lot of money, but I would still pass on him.

Cato June: Cato is very undersized, but has a lot of speed, and he is also a very good tackler, and a former pro bowler. I think it will take a lot of money to pull Cato from the Colts, which we cannot afford, and I don't think Cato is what we need.

Adalius Thomas: Thomas will probably be leaving the Ravens next year, and he would be a great addition to our LB's he could easily step in at MLB or OLB and play well, but I also think Thomas will be looking for a lot of money, I think if we can afford him we should definitely go after him for I think he is the best LB on the market for our needs.

London Fletcher: Fletcher is a very solid veteren LB with ties to GW, he could also be very inexpensive, but he will be 32 heading into next season and we will probably want to look at somebody more youthful to build around.

Other FA LB's
Kawika Mitchell
Rob Morris
Chase Blackburn
Randall Godfrey
Chad Brown
James Darling

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

Just thought I would give everybody a list of the 2007 free agent LB's with a comment.......

Lance Briggs: It would be great to get him but I think it's to unrealistic to bring him in because he will be looking for big money, and there is still a big chance that the Bears will retain him.

Na'il Diggs: Na'il has been a steady LB thourghout his career, but he has been plauged by injuries and he is getting old, although Na'il is a veteren LB and probably won't be looking for a lot of money, but I would still pass on him.

Cato June: Cato is very undersized, but has a lot of speed, and he is also a very good tackler, and a former pro bowler. I think it will take a lot of money to pull Cato from the Colts, which we cannot afford, and I don't think Cato is what we need.

Adalius Thomas: Thomas will probably be leaving the Ravens next year, and he would be a great addition to our LB's he could easily step in at MLB or OLB and play well, but I also think Thomas will be looking for a lot of money, I think if we can afford him we should definitely go after him for I think he is the best LB on the market for our needs.

London Fletcher: Fletcher is a very solid veteren LB with ties to GW, he could also be very inexpensive, but he will be 32 heading into next season and we will probably want to look at somebody more youthful to build around.

Other FA LB's
Kawika Mitchell
Rob Morris
Chase Blackburn
Randall Godfrey
Chad Brown
James Darling

I wouldn't sign any of these guys. More FA's IS NOT the way to go. A. Thomas was a 6th round draft pick. Why can't we go find someone in the draft like him and groom him? Plus he's going to be 30 next year. Same with Briggs. 3rd rounder that they kept around and groomed. Just becase these guys are good FA's names does not mean they will come here and thrive. I think we have learned the hard way about FA's. Draft and look for small name FA guys for depth.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Not bad isn't going to cut it next year, we need to reload on defense.

Not bad might cut it actually as I expect the offense to be as good as it's ever been here next season. But one thing we can all agree on: we NEED to see improvement.

[RMSkins]

I was just posting the list for everybody to see what our options are with FA LB's. I know our recent woes with free agency, and I never said we should sign anyone accept A.Thomas but that is only if we could afford him and let's face it Holdman, and Posey probably won't be here next year so that will leave us with four LB's so we're going to have to get somebody for depth so why not get somebody who can push for a starting position like A. Thomas. I agree with you on drafting a rookie and grooming him but we all know how GW is with rookies i.e. Rocky McIntosh, so who's to say that rookie will come in and have an impact right away, and that is what we need a LB that can come in and make an impact.