Carter and Lloyd Looking Promising

SmootSmack · 11-16-2006, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

lloyd isn't bad and he blocks well.... lloyd and el are still overpaid though (the next highest offer to el was 8mill SB, 18mill total - vs our 10mill SB, 31mill total).

If you had the power to go back and sign just one of the two, which one would you choose?

hooskins · 11-16-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

If you had the power to go back and sign just one of the two, which one would you choose?

Obviously ARE, because he returns punts, and throw.

ArtMonkDrillz · 11-16-2006, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

Obviously ARE, because he returns punts, and throw.

He chose poooooor-leeeee.

j/k - haven't used an Indiana Jones reference in awhile.

freddyg12 · 11-16-2006, 06:00 PM

loyd has shown promise, though at times he either ran a route wrong or there was miscommunication w/MB. He can go deep, we know that.
I hope Carter has just not been feeling it, & is waiting to break out. No excuses, we'll take any progress we can get.

That Guy · 11-16-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

If you had the power to go back and sign just one of the two, which one would you choose?

el, i mean, neither one of the WRs looks that bad, but we've got patten sorta cheap and those contracts are killers if they're allowed to hit their 4th year for the current production.

marius · 11-17-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

lloyd isn't bad and he blocks well.... lloyd and el are still overpaid though (the next highest offer to el was 8mill SB, 18mill total - vs our 10mill SB, 31mill total).

carter' looked average at best

he's shown some improvement though, but for what he's paid? :/

and yes, you need to judge performance according to contracts, because those huge overheads hurt the team's ability to improve.

Can't blame them for getting huge contracts - blame the FO. I have been pleasantly surprised by Lloyd, not in terms of numbers but in terms of commitment - the guy obviously burns to win. His numbers will go up when the passing game opens up.

Carter has been disappointing but has shown sparks and has the explosive speed the skins D needs. I feel that what he really needs is some more support from inside - a little more pressure coming from elsewhere on the line could help him tremendously.

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-17-2006, 10:04 AM

If anything, he needs to work inside. He ends up trying to work outside and gets pushed downfield.

marius · 11-17-2006, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

If anything, he needs to work inside. He ends up trying to work outside and gets pushed downfield.

Good point! Despite being paid 'Main Man' money, I don't think that Carter is 'Main Man' material. However, if the Skins did have a genuine 'Main Man' on the other end, Carter could be a very good player - maybe 10-12 sacks a season.

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-17-2006, 11:31 AM

He needs to use those tree trugs for arms he has and throw somebody down!

marius · 11-17-2006, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

He needs to use those tree trugs for arms he has and throw somebody down!

At the moment, I get the impression that he is more likely to use them for impressing girls on the beach.

The Zimmermans · 11-17-2006, 11:36 AM

I predict 2 sacks from carter this week, and 80 yards recieving from Lloyd, especially of moss is out. But I'm retarted..................ly in love with the redskins.

Beemnseven · 11-17-2006, 11:58 AM

Hey, let's lay off on the criticism of Andre Carter.

Remember, it's the defensive tackles' fault -- not his -- that he's not getting to the quarterback.

marius · 11-17-2006, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Hey, let's lay off on the criticism of Andre Carter.

Remember, it's the defensive tackles' fault -- not his -- that he's not getting to the quarterback.

Actually, I blame those pesky offensive linemen for getting in his way. If they weren't there he'd get a couple of sacks.

SKINSnCANES · 11-17-2006, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

You heard that from BMitch or the game annoucer i think lol. I think that might be true to an extent, but that is with Brunell. I think the recievers knew he couldnt get it to him. I doubt that will be an issue with Campbell.

I dont buy it, the running back had teh ball dumped off to him before the receivers finished their routes to begin with...

JGisLordOfTheRings · 11-17-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

I predict 2 sacks from carter this week, and 80 yards recieving from Lloyd, especially of moss is out. But I'm retarted..................ly in love with the redskins.

hahah god i feel the same way.....i do see Lloyd being way more involved this weel, possibly carter as well

11-16-2006, 06:00 PM	#19
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Carter and Lloyd Looking Promising loyd has shown promise, though at times he either ran a route wrong or there was miscommunication w/MB. He can go deep, we know that. I hope Carter has just not been feeling it, & is waiting to break out. No excuses, we'll take any progress we can get.

11-17-2006, 10:04 AM	#22
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Carter and Lloyd Looking Promising If anything, he needs to work inside. He ends up trying to work outside and gets pushed downfield. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

11-17-2006, 11:31 AM	#24
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Carter and Lloyd Looking Promising He needs to use those tree trugs for arms he has and throw somebody down! __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

11-17-2006, 11:36 AM	#26
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 40 Posts: 937	Re: Carter and Lloyd Looking Promising I predict 2 sacks from carter this week, and 80 yards recieving from Lloyd, especially of moss is out. But I'm retarted..................ly in love with the redskins. __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

11-17-2006, 11:58 AM	#27
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Carter and Lloyd Looking Promising Hey, let's lay off on the criticism of Andre Carter. Remember, it's the defensive tackles' fault -- not his -- that he's not getting to the quarterback.

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