What would you trade for secondary help?

That Guy · 10-07-2006, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I thought he might be an option also,but all 30 teams have passed on him,{so far},that tells me something,but i do think he will eventually get signed

32 teams

and they pass the first week cause he's on waivers (anyone that picks him up gets to pay his current contract). after he's off waivers, it's open season and he can sign for vet min.

clark would help uss more than duckett right now. duckett won't get us a good cb though, and that's something we really need.

RiggoRules · 10-07-2006, 04:10 AM

Uhm, it is week 5 people. You don't just go down to Walmart and pick up a quality CB and insert him into the lineup -- no matter the price.

Adapting to the GW defense is not an instant process for anyone. League rules not withstanding, the deadline for adding personnel to improve the defense has long since passed.

jamf · 10-07-2006, 04:45 AM

San Fran will trade walt harris to us if we take taylor jacobs back.

Luxorreb · 10-07-2006, 07:49 AM

how is taylor jacobs doing out there?

you guys still think I'm crazy for suggesting #28 to sign on for a few games? Bet the outcome vs Dallas woulda been different...

GO REDSKINS!!!

That Guy · 10-07-2006, 07:58 AM

yes, you're still crazy.

dmek25 · 10-07-2006, 08:40 AM

i agree, you are crazy

vaoutlaws2006 · 10-07-2006, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jamf

San Fran will trade walt harris to us if we take taylor jacobs back.

i have seen it all now.LOL

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-07-2006, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RiggoRules

Uhm, it is week 5 people. You don't just go down to Walmart and pick up a quality CB and insert him into the lineup -- no matter the price.

Adapting to the GW defense is not an instant process for anyone. League rules not withstanding, the deadline for adding personnel to improve the defense has long since passed.

CBs can play man without learning a system. CBs could also probably learn the defense in time for the end of the season and the playoffs. Not in time to help us replace Springs, but in time to help us win the Super Bowl.

GTripp0012 · 10-07-2006, 12:12 PM

I would trade Duckett for Ryan Clark.

MTK · 10-07-2006, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Luxorreb

how is taylor jacobs doing out there?

you guys still think I'm crazy for suggesting #28 to sign on for a few games? Bet the outcome vs Dallas woulda been different...

GO REDSKINS!!!

Dude, enough with the Darrell Green talk.

He was on the decline when he retired. I really don't think he would have much to offer at this point, and unless he can play OL I don't think he would have changed anything against Dallas.

GoSkins! · 10-07-2006, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

CBs can play man without learning a system. CBs could also probably learn the defense in time for the end of the season and the playoffs. Not in time to help us replace Springs, but in time to help us win the Super Bowl.

I think the CBs we have now may learn the system by the playoffs. They started looking better against Houston. I think that each week we should see fewer big plays and more 3 and outs. Getting a new corner may be a priority next year, but the guys we have now will probably need to do the job for this year.

MTK · 10-07-2006, 01:11 PM

I'm still willing to give guys like Rumph and Wright more time to get up to speed. Plus Rogers is still developing.

Longtimefan · 10-07-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GoSkins!

I was watching NFL Replay of the Skins-Jags and saw Duckett on the sidelines. I don't know how the contract stuff would work, but my question is this:

Would you trade Duckett for Ryan Clark?

Our secondary needs help, but we need someone that already knows the system or a trade is pointless. The Steelers need Duckett. We need help in the secondary. The Steelers would be getting the better deal, but it still may be a deal that would work for us.

Thoughts?

Ryan Clark is under contract with the Steelers and I haven't heard anything about them considering trading him. Trade talk is easy, but often time difficult to pull off in the league. TJ is a free agent at the end of this season, any trade involving him or Betts (who incidently is in the same situation) would require more than just a notion. We had the opportunity to retain Clark before he departed and chose to spend considerably more to upgrade the position, We could have kept him for much less than we're paying Arch. Further, I think that with a little more time, the players we have here will pan out, we're going through a few growing pains now because we have three new starters working in the defense and there's a process they have to go through to get better. I believe they will.

GTripp0012 · 10-07-2006, 03:48 PM

Not really sure why we traded for TJ Duckett, espicially since you don't need a day 1 draft pick to get a guy of that quality at RB. Coulda had a lineman with that choice.

With that said, I doubt we will trade Duckett, and I expect him to get more involved in the offense as we go along. He's a pretty damn good 3rd RB.

Oakland Red · 10-07-2006, 05:21 PM

Rich Tandler at the Warpath Insider puts our current Pearl Harbor Crew in perspective:

Scout.com: Pearl Harbor Crew II

Certainly if our guys don't get it together they will derail our Super Bowl championship aspirations. I remember that Bobby Beathard made a trade in 1983 to get cornerback Anthony Washington from the Steelers, I think during the season. He wasn't able to stem the tide agains the Raiders in the Super Bowl, however.

Hopefully Springs gets back here healthy enough to make a difference. Hopefully, the secondary people will come around as they learn a system so complicated that many current players don't fully understand it according to Springs (probably referring to his comrades in the defensive backfield).

I don't think you can trade TJ Duckett after all we gave up for him - he is insurance against a Portis injury, and once Duckett learns the system he will be a force in our offense and a confounding change of pace from Portis and Betts for defenses.

10-07-2006, 04:10 AM	#17
RiggoRules Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 380	Re: What would you trade for secondary help? Uhm, it is week 5 people. You don't just go down to Walmart and pick up a quality CB and insert him into the lineup -- no matter the price. Adapting to the GW defense is not an instant process for anyone. League rules not withstanding, the deadline for adding personnel to improve the defense has long since passed. __________________ *"Lighten up, Sandy Baby."*

10-07-2006, 04:45 AM	#18
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,296	Re: What would you trade for secondary help? San Fran will trade walt harris to us if we take taylor jacobs back.

10-07-2006, 07:49 AM	#19
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 52 Posts: 1,630	Re: What would you trade for secondary help? how is taylor jacobs doing out there? you guys still think I'm crazy for suggesting #28 to sign on for a few games? Bet the outcome vs Dallas woulda been different... GO REDSKINS!!! __________________ ^21^

10-07-2006, 07:58 AM	#20
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: What would you trade for secondary help? yes, you're still crazy.

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dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: What would you trade for secondary help? i agree, you are crazy __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

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GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: What would you trade for secondary help? I would trade Duckett for Ryan Clark.

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MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: What would you trade for secondary help? I'm still willing to give guys like Rumph and Wright more time to get up to speed. Plus Rogers is still developing. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-07-2006, 03:48 PM	#29
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: What would you trade for secondary help? Not really sure why we traded for TJ Duckett, espicially since you don't need a day 1 draft pick to get a guy of that quality at RB. Coulda had a lineman with that choice. With that said, I doubt we will trade Duckett, and I expect him to get more involved in the offense as we go along. He's a pretty damn good 3rd RB.

10-07-2006, 05:21 PM	#30
Oakland Red Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland, Calif. Posts: 268	Re: What would you trade for secondary help? Rich Tandler at the Warpath Insider puts our current Pearl Harbor Crew in perspective: Scout.com: Pearl Harbor Crew II Certainly if our guys don't get it together they will derail our Super Bowl championship aspirations. I remember that Bobby Beathard made a trade in 1983 to get cornerback Anthony Washington from the Steelers, I think during the season. He wasn't able to stem the tide agains the Raiders in the Super Bowl, however. Hopefully Springs gets back here healthy enough to make a difference. Hopefully, the secondary people will come around as they learn a system so complicated that many current players don't fully understand it according to Springs (probably referring to his comrades in the defensive backfield). I don't think you can trade TJ Duckett after all we gave up for him - he is insurance against a Portis injury, and once Duckett learns the system he will be a force in our offense and a confounding change of pace from Portis and Betts for defenses.

What would you trade for secondary help?

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