The Giants are ALREADY whining

MTK · 05-09-2004, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

This was the only time in his career he'd have any leverage. I can't blame Manning for wanting to go wherever he likes.

Free agents have no say in where they go??

sportscurmudgeon · 05-11-2004, 03:58 PM

Jim Fassell ran the Diants like a country club the last couple of years. The team was pretty soft. Now they bring in "Ghengis Khan". Can anyone be surprised that some of the players aren't happy?

The worst news for Giants' fans should be that Strahan has said he will work out in his own way and in his own facility and show up for mandatory training events only. When you piss off your single best player that quickly, that is not a good omen for a new coach.

To a much lesser degree - thankfully - you will have the same thing happening here in DC. The OBC did not run a particularly tough camp or a tough game preparation regimen; Gibbs will. The OBC allowed for a relaxed "grab-ass" atmosphere; Gibbs will not.

There will be "problems" here. Players will have to adjust to new routines and to new boundaries on what is permissable behavior while "on-duty". I actually feel sorry for any player who is in meetings with the coaching staff and has his cell phone go off and is dumb enough to take the call. The degree to which those can be handled in an adult manner will keep the local situation from spinning off into the "Coughlin Zone".

Smart teams will have some cap room ready to look for June 1 cuts by the Giants because there will be some very servicable players available then.

JWsleep · 05-11-2004, 05:03 PM

One thing about Gibbs is though he is strict and demanding, he is not a sreaming drill-seargant type. He has his ways of enforcing discipline, but he also is the master of the soft touch when needed. And he knows how to handle tempremental talent. He showed that in the NFL with Riggo and Manley, and he showed that in NASCAR. Plus, he's got Williams, Buges, etc., to play bad cop to his good cop. Player managment has always been one of Gibbs' strengths. He's goning to need it now, post-OBC and in the days of super-salaried, spoiled young millionaires.

It's hilarious to see the gints bitch and moan. When you finish 4-12, even the most faithful home-town giant meatheaded fan can recognize that you are in no position to bitch. The team is getting slammed in all the local papers. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys...

SmootSmack · 05-21-2004, 04:55 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...nfl&id=1806450

MTK · 05-09-2004, 12:56 PM

This reminds me alot of when Marty first came in here. Coughlin is going to rub alot of people the wrong way initially, but if they are smart enough to give him a chance and buy in, they will be much better off in the long run. Of course the opposite could always happen, the team could quickly become divided and everything could go down the crapper.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a shocking June 1 cut or two come from the Giants. Coughlin won't hesitate to send guys packing that aren't on board with him 110%.

SKINSnCANES · 05-21-2004, 05:28 PM

Manning's head is going to be spinning trying to make decisions under pressure with no oline blocking for him. We might actually be able to get some pressure against the Giants!!!

MTK · 05-22-2004, 02:02 AM

Great start for the g-men, LOL

hi-jinx · 05-22-2004, 02:28 AM

Its looking more and more like the Chargers will have two top five picks next year.

05-11-2004, 05:03 PM	#3
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	One thing about Gibbs is though he is strict and demanding, he is not a sreaming drill-seargant type. He has his ways of enforcing discipline, but he also is the master of the soft touch when needed. And he knows how to handle tempremental talent. He showed that in the NFL with Riggo and Manley, and he showed that in NASCAR. Plus, he's got Williams, Buges, etc., to play bad cop to his good cop. Player managment has always been one of Gibbs' strengths. He's goning to need it now, post-OBC and in the days of super-salaried, spoiled young millionaires. It's hilarious to see the gints bitch and moan. When you finish 4-12, even the most faithful home-town giant meatheaded fan can recognize that you are in no position to bitch. The team is getting slammed in all the local papers. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys... __________________ Hail from Houston!

05-21-2004, 04:55 PM	#4
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Giants Forfeit 2 Days of Practice http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...nfl&id=1806450 __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

05-21-2004, 05:28 PM	#6
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	Manning's head is going to be spinning trying to make decisions under pressure with no oline blocking for him. We might actually be able to get some pressure against the Giants!!! __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

05-11-2004, 03:58 PM	#2
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Jim Fassell ran the Diants like a country club the last couple of years. The team was pretty soft. Now they bring in "Ghengis Khan". Can anyone be surprised that some of the players aren't happy? The worst news for Giants' fans should be that Strahan has said he will work out in his own way and in his own facility and show up for mandatory training events only. When you piss off your single best player that quickly, that is not a good omen for a new coach. To a much lesser degree - thankfully - you will have the same thing happening here in DC. The OBC did not run a particularly tough camp or a tough game preparation regimen; Gibbs will. The OBC allowed for a relaxed "grab-ass" atmosphere; Gibbs will not. There will be "problems" here. Players will have to adjust to new routines and to new boundaries on what is permissable behavior while "on-duty". I actually feel sorry for any player who is in meetings with the coaching staff and has his cell phone go off and is dumb enough to take the call. The degree to which those can be handled in an adult manner will keep the local situation from spinning off into the "Coughlin Zone". Smart teams will have some cap room ready to look for June 1 cuts by the Giants because there will be some very servicable players available then.

05-09-2004, 12:56 PM	#5
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 99,913	This reminds me alot of when Marty first came in here. Coughlin is going to rub alot of people the wrong way initially, but if they are smart enough to give him a chance and buy in, they will be much better off in the long run. Of course the opposite could always happen, the team could quickly become divided and everything could go down the crapper. I wouldn't be surprised to see a shocking June 1 cut or two come from the Giants. Coughlin won't hesitate to send guys packing that aren't on board with him 110%.

05-22-2004, 02:02 AM	#7
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 99,913	Great start for the g-men, LOL

05-22-2004, 02:28 AM	#8
hi-jinx Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Memphis Age: 50 Posts: 180	Its looking more and more like the Chargers will have two top five picks next year.

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