Commanders v. Dallas Post Game Thread

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

We have the slowest LBs and DBs I’ve ever seen


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I expected our LB’s to be bad but our secondary is so much worse than I thought it would be.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I expected our LB’s to be bad but our secondary is so much worse than I thought it would be.

BSJ and Curl are absolutely toast in coverage. Fuller is slow and can’t keep up either. It’s ugly man. I wouldn’t bring any of them back next year. Keep Forbes of course and add cheap FA corners and maybe draft one in the 2nd


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[jamf]

Scary considering our next opponent has 4 track guys on offense.
Dolphins are going to be up 28 at halftime.

[skinsfaninok]

Dallas is really good this year especially their defense but they are not going to beat SF or Philly


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[skinsfaninok]

Dak is 6-0 at home vs us. Literally owns us


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[sdskinsfan2001]

Miami is going to do things to us that are illegal in 137 countries.

[calia]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Dak is 6-0 at home vs us. Literally owns us


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Everyone owns us. I think I’m done watching while this staff is in place. Didn’t watch today because I wanted to enjoy Thanksgiving. Hope you all did as well, this shit show aside.


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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by calia

Everyone owns us. I think I’m done watching while this staff is in place. Didn’t watch today because I wanted to enjoy Thanksgiving. Hope you all did as well, this shit show aside.


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I watched and enjoyed thanksgiving while watching lol. Losing don’t matter to me anymore with these guys. I’m so used to it now that I’m numb to it


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[skinsfaninok]

What happened to Jon Allen?? He’s been MIA all season. Payne has been more consistent this yr


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[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

What happened to Jon Allen?? He’s been MIA all season. Payne has been more consistent this yr


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I think he's frustrated by the constant losing that he's not giving his all....I think his morale is low.....it's having a negative impact on how he's playing.
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[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I think he's frustrated by the constant losing that he's not giving his all....I think his morale is low.....it's having a negative impact on how he's playing.
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My honest opinion is this applies to the whole roster in varying degrees. They all realise the coaching staff is toast, including EB. And I think to a man they've given up. I think Howell is the possible exception, though I suspect in his case, his bad games are happening because he feels he has to force it as everyone else around him has all but given up.

Now you may say they're professionals and should still play, but anyone who's been in a badly managed job knows that eventually it'll wear you down, and some of these guys have been in that situation for years. Many were probably hoping for changes last offseason and saw this season as a slow death of the RR era. Notably, I think the departure of Harris had a very detrimental effect on the secondary.

I can't help feeling that with a new FO regime and much better coaches, a lot of the players being criticised will see a resurgence. We still need holes filled, particularly at OL and LB, but I don't think this roster is nearly as bad as it's being made out to be.

[calia]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

My honest opinion is this applies to the whole roster in varying degrees. They all realise the coaching staff is toast, including EB. And I think to a man they've given up. I think Howell is the possible exception, though I suspect in his case, his bad games are happening because he feels he has to force it as everyone else around him has all but given up.

Now you may say they're professionals and should still play, but anyone who's been in a badly managed job knows that eventually it'll wear you down, and some of these guys have been in that situation for years. Many were probably hoping for changes last offseason and saw this season as a slow death of the RR era. Notably, I think the departure of Harris had a very detrimental effect on the secondary.

I can't help feeling that with a new FO regime and much better coaches, a lot of the players being criticised will see a resurgence. We still need holes filled, particularly at OL and LB, but I don't think this roster is nearly as bad as it's being made out to be.

Maybe, but a lot of guys will need to have a resurgence next year - it isn’t just a few. I think it’s a combo of some non-NFL level talent (much of our OL, LBs, and secondary) and some good or even great players badly underachieving. But it’s hard to point to anyone playing well consistently right now.

Part of me hopes RR gets canned today as it can’t get worse and it will signal to the players that change is coming. Maybe that second group will show some life before season’s end.

I see RR refused to answer the question of how the players can expect a different result if things don’t change. Seriously, that’s pathetic - it’s a fair question and he owes everyone a response.


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[jamf]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

I can't help feeling that with a new FO regime and much better coaches, a lot of the players being criticised will see a resurgence. We still need holes filled, particularly at OL and LB, but I don't think this roster is nearly as bad as it's being made out to be.

A new coaching staff doesn’t come in and fill gaps. They will want to stack the team with their type of guys. Defense is going to change the most. 43 vs 34, cover 2 vs bump and run. Who knows what the next coach is going to install.
Expect 50% turnover on D. Some of the players will fit better than others.

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Yeah that was ridiculous...
Crazy busy lately, barely had time to watch the game in 40 version of games these past few weeks. Hard to care... I felt before the start of season this year was a wash and still took as a W... but actually feeling like watching a 17 games pre-season is boring AF.

Have a hard time evaluating anybody under this sh*tty staff... especially secondary, don't think we have anybody outstanding, but hard to label anybody a bum, cuz secondaries under JDR have consistently been disastrously awful... so it has to be coaching to some extent...

Originally Posted by jamf

A new coaching staff doesn’t come in and fill gaps. They will want to stack the team with their type of guys. Defense is going to change the most. 43 vs 34, cover 2 vs bump and run. Who knows what the next coach is going to install.
Expect 50% turnover on D. Some of the players will fit better than others.

I agree with you both to a large extent, I just feel that it doesn't have to be 20-25 guys being replaced to see an improvement. Coaching, and particularly bringing in coaches with better energy, will make a bigger difference than anything, and that may invigorate the 70-80% of the roster that's, in the past, been at a good NFL level. I just feel that some of these guys were good last season or the year before, and can't see how many suddenly became JAG's purely because their talent supposedly disappeared.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

What happened to Jon Allen?? He’s been MIA all season. Payne has been more consistent this yr


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For one thing he's been constantly double-teamed since we traded our starting DE's.