At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep?

Hail to the Redskins · 12-13-2009, 08:54 PM

I LOVE how Ganther finishes runs... getting that extra 2 yards that the good pounders do.

You keep him at 15 carries a game & have a Mason, Aldridge, or 5th round pick splitting carries with him, and I think you are ok.

I have always said, do not pay big for RBs... if you have a line that can run block, you can throw Joe Schmo in there and get yardage with holes to run through.... yet we owe Portis like 10 mil next year right? so this ALL may be moot as we may be stuck w Portis & Ganther mix.

No longer a need for Cartwright or Randel El (who is COMPLETELY WORTHLESS).

CultBrennan59 · 12-13-2009, 08:53 PM

I thought it was funny how a few weeks ago I posted on one of these message boards, we should probably cut Wynn (I think) and get I think it was larry johnson or derrick brooks or chase daniels. And someone said "Ganther is the 53rd man on this roster and should be cut" I was quick to say "no this guy is good he's worth an extra look"

I was wondering who that was and what they think now, because I think honestly, this guy is the best running back we have, maybe even better than Portis (blocking is my only question I have about him)

Hail to the Redskins · 12-13-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I thought it was funny how a few weeks ago I posted on one of these message boards, we should probably cut Wynn (I think) and get I think it was larry johnson or derrick brooks or chase daniels. And someone said "Ganther is the 53rd man on this roster and should be cut" I was quick to say "no this guy is good he's worth an extra look"

I was wondering who that was and what they think now, because I think honestly, this guy is the best running back we have, maybe even better than Portis (blocking is my only question I have about him)

Just have to point out, and I'm sure someone else will remember this and back me up, in Ganther's first play as a Redskin he picked up a blitzer and STUCK him.. I remember thinking then, hey he blocks like Portis but he must not be able to run (trying to figure out why he was FA, but I think it was mostly because he is slow... lol... you see him get run down in no time on the one play today? lol)

Regardless, he is a tough S.O.B. and will block and run hard... which will make him susceptible to injury, hence the need for him to split carries... but he can block

firstdown · 12-14-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

Just have to point out, and I'm sure someone else will remember this and back me up, in Ganther's first play as a Redskin he picked up a blitzer and STUCK him.. I remember thinking then, hey he blocks like Portis but he must not be able to run (trying to figure out why he was FA, but I think it was mostly because he is slow... lol... you see him get run down in no time on the one play today? lol)

Regardless, he is a tough S.O.B. and will block and run hard... which will make him susceptible to injury, hence the need for him to split carries... but he can block

He was run down by a coner which most of the time are the fastest players on the field which I don't think is that big of a deal/ I say we keep him Betts and Rock and say good by to CP.

SBXVII · 12-14-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

He was run down by a coner which most of the time are the fastest players on the field which I don't think is that big of a deal/ I say we keep him Betts and Rock and say good by to CP.

True, plus someone mentioned he ran over a LB yesterday so you have to pick what you want. A bruising back who is not affraid to run over people or a fast RB like Alridge who will out run everyone to include CB's.

skins89moss · 12-17-2009, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

True, plus someone mentioned he ran over a LB yesterday so you have to pick what you want. A bruising back who is not affraid to run over people or a fast RB like Alridge who will out run everyone to include CB's.

Alridge is fast but so far he has done nothing in the NFL. He was on the Texans practice squad and no other teams seem to be very interested in him. Maybe next season he will be a better back and get his chance.

Bucket · 12-14-2009, 03:26 AM

Keep Ganther...

Our Oline is actaully looking solid these past games with the younger guys in there and Williams at gaurd.

In a dream scenario..

Trade Portis, El, and a late round pick for a 1st round pick

Pick up a Olineman, and QB in the 1st.

Toby Gerhart in the 2nd

Add depth to our secondary and possibly LB in the 3rd.

If I was Cerrato, this is what I would do.

CRedskinsRule · 12-14-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucket

Keep Ganther...

Our Oline is actaully looking solid these past games with the younger guys in there and Williams at gaurd.

In a dream scenario..

Trade Portis, El, and a late round pick for a 1st round pick

Pick up a Olineman, and QB in the 1st.

Toby Gerhart in the 2nd

Add depth to our secondary and possibly LB in the 3rd.

If I was Cerrato, this is what I would do.

How would you trade Portis and El when you aren't in charge any more?

Seriously though, The OL did not play exceptionally yesterday, and the next two weeks will be real good benchmark tests for our team. Most of the OLine needs to go, in my mind, but if they stand up to NYG and Dal then I will gladly change my tune.

diehard · 12-14-2009, 03:04 PM

Cut ties w/Portis and let Betts and Cartwright set their own market. They're both valuable on teams and will be more than serviceable backing up Ganther.

Mason has little value because he sucks in the return game and hasn't had a great opportunity to show consistency running the ball.

pg86 · 12-14-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by diehard

Cut ties w/Portis and let Betts and Cartwright set their own market. They're both valuable on teams and will be more than serviceable backing up Ganther.

Mason has little value because he sucks in the return game and hasn't had a great opportunity to show consistency running the ball.

Alternate...Ganther, Betts,Cartwright, and yes even Mason, teams seem not to know what to do when we bring multiple looks like this

TheSmurfs22 · 12-13-2009, 09:15 PM

I really like Ganther and Rock and would love to see both of them back. My question is, can both of them hold up through an entire season? That I do not know, however I do think it is time to make some changes in our rb position.

hooskins · 12-13-2009, 09:24 PM

Why is this an either or question? I understand for arguments sake, but why not keep both?

T.A.P.O.A.F.O.R. · 12-13-2009, 09:32 PM

okay assuming you keep only one for the sake of disucssion (i agree why not both) i guess i'm in the minority: keep the rock. ganther's a better RB because we have jack squadoley for RB. yeah you can put thomas back for returns but rock does returns well, is the kick coverage ace, can run in a pinch, is absolutely the kind of locker room guy you want, and we can pick up an RB elsewhere (FA, mid-late draft, etc.). i just think rock is WAY underappreciated.

Beemnseven · 12-13-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

Why is this an either or question? I understand for arguments sake, but why not keep both?

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. Unless it's the end of Rock's contract or something.

Rock had a good game in Dallas running and receiving. In fact, I remember thinking after that game that they should have been playing him more on offense.

SouperMeister · 12-13-2009, 09:47 PM

Let them both compete, but all things being equal, you have to like Ganther's youth. His balance was amazing on the long run after catch.

12-13-2009, 08:54 PM	#1
Hail to the Redskins The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,687	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? I LOVE how Ganther finishes runs... getting that extra 2 yards that the good pounders do. You keep him at 15 carries a game & have a Mason, Aldridge, or 5th round pick splitting carries with him, and I think you are ok. I have always said, do not pay big for RBs... if you have a line that can run block, you can throw Joe Schmo in there and get yardage with holes to run through.... yet we owe Portis like 10 mil next year right? so this ALL may be moot as we may be stuck w Portis & Ganther mix. No longer a need for Cartwright or Randel El (who is COMPLETELY WORTHLESS). __________________ “Sometimes it is not enough to our best; we must do what is required.” - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

12-13-2009, 08:53 PM	#2
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,526	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? I thought it was funny how a few weeks ago I posted on one of these message boards, we should probably cut Wynn (I think) and get I think it was larry johnson or derrick brooks or chase daniels. And someone said "Ganther is the 53rd man on this roster and should be cut" I was quick to say "no this guy is good he's worth an extra look" I was wondering who that was and what they think now, because I think honestly, this guy is the best running back we have, maybe even better than Portis (blocking is my only question I have about him)

12-14-2009, 03:26 AM	#7
Bucket Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 3,881	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? Keep Ganther... Our Oline is actaully looking solid these past games with the younger guys in there and Williams at gaurd. In a dream scenario.. Trade Portis, El, and a late round pick for a 1st round pick Pick up a Olineman, and QB in the 1st. Toby Gerhart in the 2nd Add depth to our secondary and possibly LB in the 3rd. If I was Cerrato, this is what I would do.

12-14-2009, 03:04 PM	#9
diehard The Starter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Norfolk, Va (OV) Posts: 1,566	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? Cut ties w/Portis and let Betts and Cartwright set their own market. They're both valuable on teams and will be more than serviceable backing up Ganther. Mason has little value because he sucks in the return game and hasn't had a great opportunity to show consistency running the ball.

12-13-2009, 09:15 PM	#11
TheSmurfs22 The Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Staunton, VA Posts: 1,261	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? I really like Ganther and Rock and would love to see both of them back. My question is, can both of them hold up through an entire season? That I do not know, however I do think it is time to make some changes in our rb position. __________________ F#$% the Cowpukes!

12-13-2009, 09:24 PM	#12
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? Why is this an either or question? I understand for arguments sake, but why not keep both? __________________ Vacancy

12-13-2009, 09:32 PM	#13
T.A.P.O.A.F.O.R. Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 94	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? okay assuming you keep only one for the sake of disucssion (i agree why not both) i guess i'm in the minority: keep the rock. ganther's a better RB because we have jack squadoley for RB. yeah you can put thomas back for returns but rock does returns well, is the kick coverage ace, can run in a pinch, is absolutely the kind of locker room guy you want, and we can pick up an RB elsewhere (FA, mid-late draft, etc.). i just think rock is WAY underappreciated.

12-13-2009, 09:47 PM	#15
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 59 Posts: 3,419	Re: At Seasons End Ganther or Rock Who Do You Keep? Let them both compete, but all things being equal, you have to like Ganther's youth. His balance was amazing on the long run after catch.

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