RIP Steve Jobs

firstdown · 10-06-2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Talk about a missed opportunity.

Really, she was telling me she interviewed with them in his garage and that she decided not to take the job because she did not think they would be in business very long. She did not even know what a computer was when she interviewed for them in 1976.

mredskins · 10-06-2011, 12:29 PM

Micheal Oher just a really bright guy and he complained they made him look simple in Blindside.

Michael Oher Would Appreciate It If You'd Tell Him Who This Steve Jobs Guy Was

MTK · 10-06-2011, 12:39 PM

Talk about clueless jeez, hopefully he was just kidding... as he posts from his iPhone

saden1 · 10-06-2011, 01:55 PM

RIP. Definitely too young to go but when it's your time it's your time. He had a nice run and it was a miracle he survived pancreatic cancer for 7 years. Most people don't last more than a few months.

As far as his accomplishments in the context of hardware/software innovations he will only be remembered by Apple fans and investors. If for nothing else history will remember him for giving us Pixar and being a great business man.

saden1 · 10-06-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

The Thomas Edison of our generation. RIP

Really? What a ludicrous statement.

MTK · 10-06-2011, 02:18 PM

Steve Jobs Is Thomas Edison - Business - The Atlantic Wire

Dirtbag59 · 10-06-2011, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

Micheal Oher just a really bright guy and he complained they made him look simple in Blindside.

Michael Oher Would Appreciate It If You'd Tell Him Who This Steve Jobs Guy Was

He was blindsided by his death.

saden1 · 10-07-2011, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Steve Jobs Is Thomas Edison - Business - The Atlantic Wire

What are we comparing here? Management style or their impact on the world for centuries to come? Seriously, how do we compare the iMac, iPhone, and iPad which all pretty much takes on already existing products to practical light bulb and fluoroscopy outside the lab, the electric grid, invention of the phonograph and kinetograph, and the advent of full duplex two-way telegraph?

I'm not sold in this comparison...in the context of history the best Jobs can hope to be is Francis Crow.

12thMan · 10-07-2011, 04:54 PM

Interesting the Atlantic Wire thought so too. I thought I was was off, guess not.

saden1 · 10-07-2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Interesting the Atlantic Wire thought so too. I thought I was was off, guess not.

They did? I'm guessing you're still off.

People say the darndest things.

12thMan · 10-07-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

They did? I'm guessing you're still off.

People say the darndest things.

I'm sure they said the darndest things when Edison died too.

saden1 · 10-07-2011, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'm sure they said the darndest things when Edison died too.

They did except for Tesla:

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He had no hobby, cared for no sort of amusement of any kind and lived in utter disregard of the most elementary rules of hygiene. [...] His method was inefficient in the extreme, for an immense ground had to be covered to get anything at all unless blind chance intervened and, at first, I was almost a sorry witness of his doings, knowing that just a little theory and calculation would have saved him 90% of the labour. But he had a veritable contempt for book learning and mathematical knowledge, trusting himself entirely to his inventor's instinct and practical American sense.

—Nikola Tesla

12thMan · 10-07-2011, 09:36 PM

I think the definitive biography about Steve Jobs is probably some 10-20 years away. No one is suggesting that Jobs was/is greater than Thomas Edison, just the Edison of our generation. Others have said Henry Ford. That said, it's still a worthy comparison and one intelligent people will discuss long after we're gone.

I would also argue that Jobs wasn't just a brilliant innovator, but an extremely savvy businessman who pioneered a device that was the first of it's kind. He successfully brought it to the marketplace and introduced it to every corner of the globe.

saden1 · 10-07-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I think the definitive biography about Steve Jobs is probably some 10-20 years away. No one is suggesting that Jobs was/is greater than Thomas Edison, just the Edison of our generation. Others have said Henry Ford. That said, it's still a worthy comparison and one intelligent people will discuss long after we're gone.

I would also argue that Jobs wasn't just a brilliant innovator, but an extremely savvy businessman who pioneered a device that was the first of it's kind. He successfully brought it to the marketplace and introduced it to every corner of the globe.

What the hell does that even mean? In order to be the Edison of our generation your accomplishments have to be extraordinary like that of Edison.

What was first of its kind? The iPhone? The iPad? The Apple II? The Motorola Razr was innovative and sold a ton of devices but I don't think anyone really cares who was in charge of its development.

My fidelity lies with history....People need to stop lowering the bar for Jobs and realize his accomplishments aren't on par with that of Ford and Edison. I mean, Jobs has sweatshops while Henry developed the assembly line and paid his employees liveable wages and afforded them medical care.

cpayne5 · 10-08-2011, 03:20 PM

I agree with saden.

The problem I have with the Jobs/Edison comparison is that while Edison invented things, Jobs took what already existed, made it look cool by painting it white, and then sold a ton of them.

Everyone wants to say that the iPod was a great invention. It wasn't an invention. It was a well marketed digital media player (not the first!) whose timing was right.

If he is the closest we have to Edison for our generation, then our generation has failed miserably, IMO.

Jobs definitely deserves a lot of credit for all that he accomplished, but he is no Edison. Not even close.

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saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 44 Posts: 10,069	Re: RIP Steve Jobs RIP. Definitely too young to go but when it's your time it's your time. He had a nice run and it was a miracle he survived pancreatic cancer for 7 years. Most people don't last more than a few months. As far as his accomplishments in the context of hardware/software innovations he will only be remembered by Apple fans and investors. If for nothing else history will remember him for giving us Pixar and being a great business man. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins Last edited by saden1; 10-06-2011 at 01:58 PM.

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12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: RIP Steve Jobs I think the definitive biography about Steve Jobs is probably some 10-20 years away. No one is suggesting that Jobs was/is greater than Thomas Edison, just the Edison of our generation. Others have said Henry Ford. That said, it's still a worthy comparison and one intelligent people will discuss long after we're gone. I would also argue that Jobs wasn't just a brilliant innovator, but an extremely savvy businessman who pioneered a device that was the first of it's kind. He successfully brought it to the marketplace and introduced it to every corner of the globe. Last edited by 12thMan; 10-07-2011 at 09:44 PM.

10-08-2011, 03:20 PM	#30
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	Re: RIP Steve Jobs I agree with saden. The problem I have with the Jobs/Edison comparison is that while Edison invented things, Jobs took what already existed, made it look cool by painting it white, and then sold a ton of them. Everyone wants to say that the iPod was a great invention. It wasn't an invention. It was a well marketed digital media player (not the first!) whose timing was right. If he is the closest we have to Edison for our generation, then our generation has failed miserably, IMO. Jobs definitely deserves a lot of credit for all that he accomplished, but he is no Edison. Not even close. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

RIP Steve Jobs

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