Was Jamie Dukes out of line on Ryan Mallett?

[Son Of Man]

Asserting that this comment is somehow racist is, at minimum, a stretch. It appears to be a clumsily stated viewpoint of Mallet coming off as a little street (which some may view as uncommon given Mallet's skin color). The invocation of Eminem is corny, but far from ill intentioned.

BTW- There is definately a double standard on televison for racial toned comments (and gender related comments for that matter). It is a course correction (sometimes over correction) for the systematic mistreatment of those segments of the population. Black Americans were denied voting rights, basic civil liberties and discrimnated against in various other ways (didn't even mention slavery) - thus American society is hypersensitive to any comments that may invoke bad feelings or open old "wounds". Same goes for women who suffered through many the same hardships and still fight for equal pay and opportunities. Thus, the double standard for what comments are tolerated.

BTW- White males do not "have it easier" in America today. Our system is relatively fair across the board for males. However, if we take a total view of American history, we can hardly say the white males were somehow disadvantaged. (other than certain immigrant factions during the late 1800's and early to mid 1900's).

That being said, I disapprove of the race/gender card being thrown out when it is unwarranted. Regardless of who is doing the throwing.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Eknox

It's not racist when u hear him talk he does sound streetwise. Everyone's trying to condemn Jamie as a racist for that are you kidding me? He never even mentioned color. Racists are known to be very ignorant. I can see wrong choice of words. Jamie actually likes Mallett as a pro QB. So can we talk Football of move this crap to the good ole boy section?

I agree that this isn't worth making a big stink over, but to be fair, he did mention color. "Caucasian street guy" is what he called Mallett.

[Eknox]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I don't think it's all that racist, but IMO the point here is the double standard we see so often in today's society with regard to race issues between blacks and whites.

More often than not, if a white guy is referred to by a black guy as "white boy" or a white guy does something athletic and you hear "not bad for a white guy," most people don't bat an eye. Just like Jamie Dukes can call Mallett a white street guy, and no one outside the blogosphere cares.

But if Rich Eisen had called Julio Jones a "black boy," or street, hood, ghetto, nappy headed, or some other term of that nature, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be beating down his door.

Me personally, I don't really give a damn. Skin color has never really mattered to me. But the double standard annoys me.

Wow so that's what u think of us? Sounds like it does matter to you.
You want than to lose his job? Will that make u feel better?

[Player_HTTR]

Ahh... who cares, the description seems pretty accurate. No different than saying a black guy off the streets is "a African-American street guy." If he said he was white devil cracker-ass wannabe, then there might be an issue. Even if the white guy race card credit limit went up a little with a black man in the White house, they need to stay in the wallet for something bigger than this.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Eknox

Wow so that's what u think of us? Sounds like it does matter to you.
You want than to lose his job? Will that make u feel better?

What????

Re-read my post. I said I don't think it was particularly racist, and that skin color doesn't matter to me. I just simply pointed out a double-standard that without a doubt exists in society.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Eknox

It's not racist when u hear him talk he does sound streetwise. Everyone's trying to condemn Jamie as a racist for that are you kidding me? He never even mentioned color. Racists are known to be very ignorant. I can see wrong choice of words. Jamie actually likes Mallett as a pro QB. So can we talk Football of move this crap to the good ole boy section?

For the record you're the one throwing around "good ole boy" terms all the while being hyper sensitive. Proving my point for me? Methinks.....

[MTK]

I don't think Dukes had any racist intentions behind his thinking, probably just wasn't worded the best way.

[skinsfaninok]

All I was saying is Dukes said a racist comment which IMO it was. I'm not saying he's racist but again if A white analyst said that he would be in hot water. Fair is fair folks

[MTK]

The double standard exists for a reason. I really don't want to get into it but in this case I think Duke's comments were ill advised and poorly worded, but I don't think it was meant as racist in any way.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I don't think it's all that racist, but IMO the point here is the double standard we see so often in today's society with regard to race issues between blacks and whites.

More often than not, if a white guy is referred to by a black guy as "white boy" or a white guy does something athletic and you hear "not bad for a white guy," most people don't bat an eye. Just like Jamie Dukes can call Mallett a white street guy, and no one outside the blogosphere cares.

But if Rich Eisen had called Julio Jones a "black boy," or street, hood, ghetto, nappy headed, or some other term of that nature, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be beating down his door.

Me personally, I don't really give a damn. Skin color has never really mattered to me. But the double standard annoys me.

Pretty accurate statement here. Hard to argue with this post.

BTW- Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson are glorified racial ambulance chasers. They rip into Imus but celebrate Ludicris. Although both wrong, what's really worse calling someone "nappy headed hoe" or telling her to "move bitch get out the way" and sell records to young girls encouraging misogony?

Before some of you get mad about me dissing Sharpton & Jackson....I'm Black...lol.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Pretty accurate statement here. Hard to argue with this post.

BTW- Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson are glorified racial ambulance chasers. They rip into Imus but celebrate Ludicris. Although both wrong, what's really worse calling someone "nappy headed hoe" or telling her to "move bitch get out the way" and sell records to young girls encouraging misogony?

Before some of you get mad about me dissing Sharpton & Jackson....I'm Black...lol.

Lol. I like that. So true. My eyes immediately roll at the sight of either of those two.

[skinster]

he did a poor job of phrasing it, but the message is true imo. its a little offensive the way he said it, but not enough to have people care or turn it into something big.

[skinsfaninok]

^ I agree matty but why would dukes eve say that? Who cares if the guy has some black Friends and acts like them? It's 2011 this race crap should be over by now.

He even compared him to Eminem or Vanilla Ice? He knew what he was trying to say

[celts32]

I don't consider Dukes racist but I tend to tune out everything he says because I think he is lousy and I don't think I learn anything by listening to him. I watched this entire episode of Total Access where he was talking about Mallet but i must have started day dreaming because i don't even remember him saying it.

[skinsfaninok]

@skinster

How do you think that's accurate? Just because of the media or the way he talks? Cmon man that's bush league