Orakpo and Carriker Done for Season

[Gary84Clark]

I think both Jackson and wilson are good. Jarvis Jenkins make it happen!!!!

[los panda]

it's unfortunate but it's not like either of them were game-changers. orakpo is not demarcus ware, jenkins has the tools to account for carriker's absence.

we're not doomed, it's an opportunity for a antonio pierce or ryan clark to emerge

[MTK]

Originally Posted by los panda

it's unfortunate but it's not like either of them were game-changers. orakpo is not demarcus ware, jenkins has the tools to account for carriker's absence.

we're not doomed, it's an opportunity for a antonio pierce or ryan clark to emerge

Rak is more valuable than you seem to be giving him credit for.

Losing a guy who's capable of double digit sacks hurts.

We're not doomed, but the D took a serious blow with these 2 injuries.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Rak is more valuable than you seem to be giving him credit for.

Losing a guy who's capable of double digit sacks hurts.

We're not doomed, but the D took a serious blow with these 2 injuries.

hell, andre carter is capable of double digit sacks, and he's on the street. it hurts to lose orakpo, but he hasn't had double digit sacks since his rookie season

[Evilgrin]

Originally Posted by los panda

hell, andre carter is capable of double digit sacks, and he's on the street. it hurts to lose orakpo, but he hasn't had double digit sacks since his rookie season

He's pretty damn good, PFF has him 14th or 15th in the entire NFL. It's not just sacks, but total pressures.

Still they gotta make them compete, best man up.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by los panda

hell, andre carter is capable of double digit sacks, and he's on the street. it hurts to lose orakpo, but he hasn't had double digit sacks since his rookie season

Problem is Carter isn't a 3-4 LB, been down that road already with him.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Problem is Carter isn't a 3-4 LB, been down that road already with him.

We've been down that road, but it wasnt that bad. He wasnt ideal, but he was certainly serviceable. And he left on good terms. I'd rather bring him in than some other random veteran free agent. We'll probably just upgrade someone from the practice squad.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by los panda

it's unfortunate but it's not like either of them were game-changers. orakpo is not demarcus ware, jenkins has the tools to account for carriker's absence.

we're not doomed, it's an opportunity for a antonio pierce or ryan clark to emerge

I agree with this. I've always thought that Orakpo was vastly overrated. Wasn't a good run stopper, too easily taken out of the game due to his inability to learn other moves. I think Carriker is a bigger loss than Orakpo truthfully. It's time for the next guys in line to shine. Step up or step off. Really that simple.

The only thing I fear is that our defensive pressure just took a big hit. Hope Haslett adjusts.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by los panda

it's unfortunate but it's not like either of them were game-changers. Orakpo is not demarcus ware, jenkins has the tools to account for carriker's absence.

we're not doomed, it's an opportunity for a antonio pierce or ryan clark to emerge

WTF,did I miss something?

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

WTF,did I miss something?

I think he meant an Antonio Pierce or a Ryan Clark TYPE of guy to step up, not those actual players.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I think he meant an Antonio Pierce or a Ryan Clark TYPE of guy to step up, not those actual players.

OK,I get it now:cheeky-sm

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by los panda

it's unfortunate but it's not like either of them were game-changers. orakpo is not demarcus ware, jenkins has the tools to account for carriker's absence.

we're not doomed, it's an opportunity for a antonio pierce or ryan clark to emerge

Best post I've seen on this. Orakpo is a nice player, but many Redskins fans make him out to be a superstar, which he isn't. Clay Matthews was drafted a round later than Rak, and he is far more impactful. Ryan Kerrigan is too, for that matter.

[ashvirtually]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Best post I've seen on this. Orakpo is a nice player, but many Redskins fans make him out to be a superstar, which he isn't. Clay Matthews was drafted a round later than Rak, and he is far more impactful. Ryan Kerrigan is too, for that matter.

What?

Rak is second only to Matthews in number of sacks since they both joined joined the league (29 for Rak 33 for Matthews, 170 tackles to Matthews' 171). He made an immediate impact on our team with his arrival, and his absence will adversely affect our front seven and its ability to create pressure.

Some Redskins fans are acting as if he isn't a stud and that his absence won't have that big of an impact on our D.

They are wrong.

He is and it does. That's the reality.

Will the other guys step up? We can only hope. But this incessant downplaying of Rak's ability and his affect on our defense is silly.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by ashvirtually

What?

Rak is second only to Matthews in number of sacks since they both joined joined the league (29 for Rak 33 for Matthews, 170 tackles to Matthews' 171). He made an immediate impact on our team with his arrival, and his absence will adversely affect our front seven and its ability to create pressure.

Some Redskins fans are acting as if he isn't a stud and that his absence won't have that big of an impact on our D.

They are wrong.

He is and it does. That's the reality.

Will the other guys step up? We can only hope. But this incessant downplaying of Rak's ability and his affect on our defense is silly.

One guy plays on a team that wins, the other one doesn't and that's the difference.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

One guy plays on a team that wins, the other one doesn't and that's the difference.

There is more difference than that. One has many moves to get to the QB, the other one has one move only. One can actually stop the run and cover in space, the other one does not.