Moss for Coles (merged)

celts32 · 02-25-2005, 11:08 AM

I don't like Santana Moss. I think the guy has been a disapointment for his whole career. I don't like this. I want a draft pick for Coles. Any draft pick in the top 3 rounds is worth more to me than Moss. I don't see Moss as being anything more than a good #2 in the NFL. He had 45 catches and 5 TD's last season. I just don't like him at all.

d151b · 02-25-2005, 11:19 AM

extremeskins.com is reporting the deal is done...

Redskins_P · 02-25-2005, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by d151b

extremeskins.com is reporting the deal is done...

Here it is.....

http://sportsline.com/nfl/story/8228173

SmootSmack · 02-25-2005, 11:27 AM

It's being reported on the radio here as well. So Coles goes back to the team that drafted him in return for the guy we nearly drafted before we got Gardner, who we're about to let go....circle of life

MTK · 02-25-2005, 11:34 AM

wow, I guess my crystal ball was right!

MTK · 02-25-2005, 11:35 AM

Since he returns kicks this helps kill two birds with one stone. Of course we still have Antonio Brown so who knows if we would risk having Moss return kicks, but he's still a good insurance policy for the return game.

SmootSmack · 02-25-2005, 11:36 AM

Moss, Brown, Thrash, Jacobs....it's the Smurfs all over again!

MTK · 02-25-2005, 11:36 AM

Since he's going to a team he's happy with, I'm wondering if he will give up that $5M bonus?

MTK · 02-25-2005, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Since he's going to a team he's happy with, I'm wondering if he will give up that $5M bonus?

or maybe not...

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sources said the Jets will not agree to a deal that includes the assumption of the bonus, and that for the trade to go through Washington would have to pay the remaining sum. They also said the Redskins seem willing to pay it.

Schneed10 · 02-25-2005, 11:39 AM

I'm not crazy about this one. I think Moss is a downgrade from Coles. That said, if he's going to be a Redskin, the eternal optimist in me can't help but get excited about the possibility of him adding the big-play threat that he was in 2003. His season in 2004 really worries me, I hope we're not getting damaged goods. But if he's healthy, he can definitely stretch the field which we desperately need.

The sportsline article made it sound like there was a possibility that Coles would give back the $5 million even though he'd be getting traded instead of released. That would make me like the deal a whole lot more; we'd have cap space to do a lot more in free agency.

Redskins_P · 02-25-2005, 11:40 AM

I guess this means that Samuels did restructure. Great news.

So what happens to Chad Morton now? If it was up to me, I'd cut his ass asap.

MTK · 02-25-2005, 11:42 AM

Even before this deal I think Morton's spot with the team was in jeopardy.

Redskins_P · 02-25-2005, 11:43 AM

On paper Coles is way better than Moss, but I think Moss brings some speed that we needed badly at WR.

As for Coles, no sense in keeping a player who doesn't want to play for you.

MTK · 02-25-2005, 11:45 AM

Moss is probably just as fast as Coles plus he's not playing with a bum toe.

The book on Moss from Scouts Inc.

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Name: Santana Moss
Position: Wide Receiver
Grade: 76 | Key
Alert: B

Comment:
Moss explodes out of cuts, runs precise routes and excels at generating separation working against man coverage. Changes directions without losing much speed in transition, shows effective double moves and will occasionally turns defensive backs around. Has the elusiveness to make multiple defenders miss and is a threat to make something happen every time touches the ball. Shows great body control and can adjust to the ball while it's in the air. Catches the ball with hands away from frame, can catch the ball at its highest point and will make some acrobatic receptions. Moss generally uses his quick feet and rare agility to avoid the jam at the line but he lacks prototypical size, he lacks the upper body strength to beat the jam when a corner gets into his frame and bigger corners will have some success muscling him out of his routes. Lacks bulk, doesn't show great power at the point of attack and offers little as a blocker though gives good effort. He is a marginal No. 1 and an excellent No. 2.

celts32 · 02-25-2005, 11:52 AM

I don't like this trade. We take a 9 mil hit this year and we have to give Moss a new big contract or risk losing him next year. And he's not even as good as Coles, and I am probably one of the biggest Coles detractors on this website. However, Coles is better than Moss. Why can't they just get a draft pick? Why do they always need to bring in other teams problems?

View Poll Results: Do you approve of the Santana Moss for L. Coles deal?
Yes	43	60.56%
No	28	39.44%
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02-25-2005, 11:08 AM	#16
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 52 Posts: 2,665	Re: Moss for Coles? I don't like Santana Moss. I think the guy has been a disapointment for his whole career. I don't like this. I want a draft pick for Coles. Any draft pick in the top 3 rounds is worth more to me than Moss. I don't see Moss as being anything more than a good #2 in the NFL. He had 45 catches and 5 TD's last season. I just don't like him at all.

02-25-2005, 11:19 AM	#17
d151b Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 157	Re: Moss for Coles? extremeskins.com is reporting the deal is done...

02-25-2005, 11:27 AM	#19
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Moss for Coles? It's being reported on the radio here as well. So Coles goes back to the team that drafted him in return for the guy we nearly drafted before we got Gardner, who we're about to let go....circle of life __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-25-2005, 11:34 AM	#20
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02-25-2005, 11:35 AM	#21
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,427	Re: Moss for Coles? Since he returns kicks this helps kill two birds with one stone. Of course we still have Antonio Brown so who knows if we would risk having Moss return kicks, but he's still a good insurance policy for the return game. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

02-25-2005, 11:36 AM	#22
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Moss for Coles? Moss, Brown, Thrash, Jacobs....it's the Smurfs all over again! __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-25-2005, 11:36 AM	#23
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,427	Re: Moss for Coles? Since he's going to a team he's happy with, I'm wondering if he will give up that $5M bonus? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

02-25-2005, 11:39 AM	#25
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 44 Posts: 12,416	Re: Moss for Coles? I'm not crazy about this one. I think Moss is a downgrade from Coles. That said, if he's going to be a Redskin, the eternal optimist in me can't help but get excited about the possibility of him adding the big-play threat that he was in 2003. His season in 2004 really worries me, I hope we're not getting damaged goods. But if he's healthy, he can definitely stretch the field which we desperately need. The sportsline article made it sound like there was a possibility that Coles would give back the $5 million even though he'd be getting traded instead of released. That would make me like the deal a whole lot more; we'd have cap space to do a lot more in free agency.

02-25-2005, 11:40 AM	#26
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: Moss for Coles? I guess this means that Samuels did restructure. Great news. So what happens to Chad Morton now? If it was up to me, I'd cut his ass asap.

02-25-2005, 11:42 AM	#27
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,427	Re: Moss for Coles? Even before this deal I think Morton's spot with the team was in jeopardy. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

02-25-2005, 11:43 AM	#28
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: Moss for Coles? On paper Coles is way better than Moss, but I think Moss brings some speed that we needed badly at WR. As for Coles, no sense in keeping a player who doesn't want to play for you.

02-25-2005, 11:52 AM	#30
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 52 Posts: 2,665	Re: Moss for Coles? I don't like this trade. We take a 9 mil hit this year and we have to give Moss a new big contract or risk losing him next year. And he's not even as good as Coles, and I am probably one of the biggest Coles detractors on this website. However, Coles is better than Moss. Why can't they just get a draft pick? Why do they always need to bring in other teams problems?

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