Around the NFL Week 17

sdskinsfan2001 · 12-29-2022, 09:41 PM

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Lol my bad. Try again when u can.

Also Dallas is all hype

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Wow, what a game. Oklahoma took it to us all game. Definitely could argue y'all outplayed us.

Our offense just makes lots of chunk plays that can cover up for things.

Glad Venables isn't at Clemson anymore. Best of luck next year.

skinsfaninok · 12-29-2022, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Still full. I'll just post it here:

Wow, what a game. Oklahoma took it to us all game. Definitely could argue y'all outplayed us.

Our offense just makes lots of chunk plays that can cover up for things.

Glad Venables isn't at Clemson anymore. Best of luck next year.

Bro that was a damn good game!! FSU has a bright future too. I love college football!

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EdmundDorf · 12-28-2022, 03:23 PM

Would you swap him for Carson Wentz? His salary for next year is nearly $40m so they would need to eat a large chunk of that for it to work for our salary cap. If they straight up cut him how much would he cost and would he have better options?

MTK · 12-28-2022, 03:44 PM

Between Wentz, Heinicke, and Carr, I think the answer is easy if those are the options.

sdskinsfan2001 · 12-28-2022, 03:59 PM

Wilson, what a dick.

"Former players such as Marshawn Lynch and Richard Sherman revealed how unapproachable he was as a teammate, making himself only available via his manager, while Pete Carroll publicly criticized Wilson’s refusal to wear a wristband while in Seattle."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/gol...b989b3fb11177b

MTK · 12-28-2022, 04:28 PM

crazy what a diva Wilson is, how the Seahawks put up with him for so long is pretty amazing

Chief X_Phackter · 12-28-2022, 08:26 PM

I think it's ok to hope that Sam Howell turns out to be the guy here - eventually, but to think he is the best option at this point is wrong in my opinion. He obviously has all the physical talents/tools, but I don't think he's ready right now. If he was the best option right now for a team with a chance to get into the playoffs if they win their last two games, he would be playing.

SFREDSKIN · 12-28-2022, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I think it's ok to hope that Sam Howell turns out to be the guy here - eventually, but to think he is the best option at this point is wrong in my opinion. He obviously has all the physical talents/tools, but I don't think he's ready right now. If he was the best option right now for a team with a chance to get into the playoffs if they win their last two games, he would be playing.

Make him the backup, he’s had OTA’s, Camp and 15 games to learn the offense, he’s a smart kid. After Wentz flops or gets hurt, Rivera will need to rely on his backup. He’s taking a chance with Wentz thinking things will be different. why not Howell.

Chief X_Phackter · 12-28-2022, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Make him the backup, he’s had OTA’s, Camp and 15 games to learn the offense, he’s a smart kid. After Wentz flops or gets hurt, Rivera will need to rely on his backup. He’s taking a chance with Wentz thinking things will be different. why not Howell.

Because he's the third best option right now.

SFREDSKIN · 12-28-2022, 08:57 PM

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Because he's the third best option right now.

Rivera will find out the hard way, Clowney and Garrett will have a field day

Meks · 12-28-2022, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I think it's ok to hope that Sam Howell turns out to be the guy here - eventually, but to think he is the best option at this point is wrong in my opinion. He obviously has all the physical talents/tools, but I don't think he's ready right now. If he was the best option right now for a team with a chance to get into the playoffs if they win their last two games, he would be playing.

Sorry I don't even trust the coaching staff to be smart enough to identify nor have the balls to validate that last statement.

BaltimoreSkins · 12-29-2022, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I think it's ok to hope that Sam Howell turns out to be the guy here - eventually, but to think he is the best option at this point is wrong in my opinion. He obviously has all the physical talents/tools, but I don't think he's ready right now. If he was the best option right now for a team with a chance to get into the playoffs if they win their last two games, he would be playing.

This is where I am with Howell. If he was ready I think he would be playing. For as much shit as we fans give the coaches they know way more about football than we do.

SFREDSKIN · 12-29-2022, 09:13 AM

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This is where I am with Howell. If he was ready I think he would be playing. For as much shit as we fans give the coaches they know way more about football than we do.

This is more like ego and stubbornness,trying to prove his point of giving up 2 3rd rounders and $28/mil. He’s going down with the ship and not want to look like an idiot.

skinsfan69 · 12-28-2022, 09:55 PM

Carr will no doubt have plenty of suiters. As far as McDaniels goes, I've never understood why this guy has had so many opportunities. Kyle and McVay are so much better. They've proven that they can win w/ average Qb's. Here McDaniels has a proven guy and a playoff team and right when he gets there they go downhill. When he goes to Denver he has Cutler in the prime of his career, runs him off and drafts Tebow in the first round. What a clown this guy is w/ shitty people skills.

How do you explain that kind of incompetence? Yet year after year this guy is always getting chances. He even had the Colts job then turned it down. Just never been a fan of him at all. Living off Tom Brady and Belichick. No doubt Mark Davis has to have buyers remorse.

That Guy · 12-29-2022, 01:24 AM

I rather not see the team spend 25m+ for a retread QB. Rather take shots in the draft and find a guy who's actually a guy vs trying out QBs for a lot of money that we know are only going to be average at best.

We should see if Howell's any good, and probably look to draft someone (based on value/late if confidence in howell is high, and with high priority if confidence isn't there).

We've all seen guys come out of the draft and do well (or do well in year 2), and if the OL can get fixed, the team will have everything needed to provide a QB the best opportunity to get wins by just not screwing up.

12-28-2022, 03:23 PM	#3
EdmundDorf The Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UK, South Posts: 1,919	Re: Around the NFL Week 17 Would you swap him for Carson Wentz? His salary for next year is nearly $40m so they would need to eat a large chunk of that for it to work for our salary cap. If they straight up cut him how much would he cost and would he have better options?

12-28-2022, 03:44 PM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,427	Re: Around the NFL Week 17 Between Wentz, Heinicke, and Carr, I think the answer is easy if those are the options. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-28-2022, 03:59 PM	#5
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 41 Posts: 19,466	Re: Around the NFL Week 17 Wilson, what a dick. "Former players such as Marshawn Lynch and Richard Sherman revealed how unapproachable he was as a teammate, making himself only available via his manager, while Pete Carroll publicly criticized Wilson’s refusal to wear a wristband while in Seattle." https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/gol...b989b3fb11177b __________________ Turkish: What's happening with them sausages, Charlie? Sausage Charlie: Five minutes, Turkish. Turkish: It was two minutes five minutes ago.

12-28-2022, 04:28 PM	#6
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,427	Re: Around the NFL Week 17 crazy what a diva Wilson is, how the Seahawks put up with him for so long is pretty amazing __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-28-2022, 08:26 PM	#7
Chief X_Phackter Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 5,470	Re: Around the NFL Week 17 I think it's ok to hope that Sam Howell turns out to be the guy here - eventually, but to think he is the best option at this point is wrong in my opinion. He obviously has all the physical talents/tools, but I don't think he's ready right now. If he was the best option right now for a team with a chance to get into the playoffs if they win their last two games, he would be playing.

12-28-2022, 09:55 PM	#14
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,143	Re: Around the NFL Week 17 Carr will no doubt have plenty of suiters. As far as McDaniels goes, I've never understood why this guy has had so many opportunities. Kyle and McVay are so much better. They've proven that they can win w/ average Qb's. Here McDaniels has a proven guy and a playoff team and right when he gets there they go downhill. When he goes to Denver he has Cutler in the prime of his career, runs him off and drafts Tebow in the first round. What a clown this guy is w/ shitty people skills. How do you explain that kind of incompetence? Yet year after year this guy is always getting chances. He even had the Colts job then turned it down. Just never been a fan of him at all. Living off Tom Brady and Belichick. No doubt Mark Davis has to have buyers remorse.

12-29-2022, 01:24 AM	#15
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 41 Posts: 17,511	Re: Around the NFL Week 17 I rather not see the team spend 25m+ for a retread QB. Rather take shots in the draft and find a guy who's actually a guy vs trying out QBs for a lot of money that we know are only going to be average at best. We should see if Howell's any good, and probably look to draft someone (based on value/late if confidence in howell is high, and with high priority if confidence isn't there). We've all seen guys come out of the draft and do well (or do well in year 2), and if the OL can get fixed, the team will have everything needed to provide a QB the best opportunity to get wins by just not screwing up.

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