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Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release
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Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release
With the exception of 1 or 2 games last season, we were right there in every one. Thanks mostly to our defense, we SHOULD have beaten devision rivals such as Dallas and Philly. Despite a new staff and totally new system, we were simply victims of circumstance. ie: Injury bug, horrendous officiating and the 1 mistake that was Brunell. Hopefully this year these problems will be put behind us including any players
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A Dude
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release
You can't slap the franchise tag on a player unless he is a free agent. If you grant a player his outright release from the contract, you also cannot slap the franchise tag on him. Franchising him is impossible.
Secondly, trading him will make his cap hit about $10 million this year, which is impossible to absorb. Coles won't give back the signing bonus unless he gets the opportunity to become a free agent, so we'll get no help on the cap hit. A trade is, therefore, impossible. |
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Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release
:vomit-smi
That's all I have to say.
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Camp Scrub
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release
This sucks. Why are we getting nothing for Coles? Don't you think we could wrangel some sort of trade for him? We wouldn't get value, but maybe something. I hate to just let a guy like Coles go, especially w/the hit the salary cap will take.
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Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release
The hit would be even more outrageous if we trade him (I think.)
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Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release
WTF? we traded a first rounder for two seasons out of this guy. I'm glad he's kept his mouth shut, but if we can't draft well OR make better decisions in FA then we are truely fucked.
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Seattle
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Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release
The Redskins are still a dysfunctional organization. Believe that!
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release
If Coles isn't happy as a skins player, that's a big deal for Gibbs. And my guess is Coles is going to return a lot of the bonus money to make the move "cap friendly" for the skins.
If we can lose a disgruntled player who's been injury prone without getting creamed on the cap, it's not such a bad thing. It all depends on the cap hit and who we can get to replace him. If it's a big cap hit and Coles is actually healthy down the road, it's not a good thing. If it's a managable cap hit and Coles isn't ever going to be the threat he was, than it's a good thing. I always liked Coles because he's a tough guy, plays through pain, makes plays like that one after an INT last year, etc. But everyone agrees our WRs need a change. If this allows us to clean the slate and get our passing game going, it may be for the best. Plus, the post article said Coles has been disgruntled and longing for Spurrier's offense (sounds like Daseal!). If that's the case, maybe it's time for a change.
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Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release
Gibbs said that we are going to open up the playbook next season. What this means, I don't know, but it obviously is worrying some people.
Do I hear "Statue of Liberty" play anyone? Maybe "Hook 'n' Lateral"
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Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release
Most definitely. I hope our draft luck started with the drafting of Taylor last year and continues for years to come. I'd love to see someone be able to evaluate the talent like that and pick up a good WR. It's such a crap shoot with who will be the best playmaker. With the prospects it almost seems as though the choice will be who will be the most immediate playmaker.
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Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release
It is however possible to restructure Coles to a reasonable contract and trade him - in a way, we have some leverage. He's made his money, and he'll probably take a short contract/paycut to be dealt. If we sign him to a one year deal worth much less could we trade him away without a huge cap hit?
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release
This move by the Redskins to release Coles reflects very well on the organization. You have to be willing to make these decisions and not get attached to the potential of a player when the facts are clear that he has to go - for more than one reason: his drag the team down depression and unhappiness, and his injury that has kept him and may still keep him from playing like he used to be capable of, thus making him overpaid and blocking someone else from being able to develop.
I hope people don't think that Coles' judgment is anything other than a self-centered emotional take on what is going on. I wish Coles the best, but we need "all for one and one for all" guys on this team to be a winner. Coles had 90 catches but that wasn't what he wanted. He didn't have the patience to allow the team to develop offensively. He has his vision of the kind of longer passes he wants to catch - and I don't know if he is frustrated about the way his injuries have limited him and is looking to blame others for that problem. |
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