Giants part 1 Dumpster Fire postgame

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

If RR was trying to lose, Haskins would still be starting. He tried to win, and it didn't work. There's no tanking going on. Collectively, they're just not very good right now.

I'm sorry but no he didn't. Or if that was him trying to win you have to question his football IQ.
Last year when the Dolphins went for 2 in the same situation we all knew what it meant.
He either didn't care about winning or is awful at understanding situational football.

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[Pervis_Griffith]

For me the jury is out on Rivera.

I am no longer buying the narrative that Rivera is this master culture builder, and all his moves are designed to continue building this team.

Going for 2, after his offense had showed an ability to move the ball on the Giants, and the defense had shown the ability to get a stop, does NOT send the signal to the team that your coach believes in you. It sends the opposite message.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Pervis_Griffith

For me the jury is out on Rivera.

I am no longer buying the narrative that Rivera is this master culture builder, and all his moves are designed to continue building this team.

Going for 2, after his offense had showed an ability to move the ball on the Giants, and the defense had shown the ability to get a stop, does NOT send the signal to the team that your coach believes in you. It sends the opposite message.

Ron is playing for next yr and after.. He knows this team is bad and there is no point in winning meaningless games if you can grab Lawrence/Fields in this draft

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Ron is playing for next yr and after.. He knows this team is bad and there is no point in winning meaningless games if you can grab Lawrence/Fields in this draft

I'm done with this season too. Idk who to blame for the terrible offense, but everybody is garbage. The playcalling is garbage. Kyle Allen is garbage. The pass blocking is garbage. The run blocking is garbage. The non-Terry Mac wideouts are garbage. The tight ends are garbage.

It says a lot that Rivera hypes up Allen as the guy he has the most trust in, and then Allen goes out and his only difference is putting a couple td's on the board, but they're both negated by absolutely terrible turnovers. Allen looks like a future Ryan Fitzpatrick, only we really haven't seen Allen's magic yet (even giving credit for both td's today, congrats on the fade TD too that only took us 7 years to finally complete).

The defense is garbage (basing this on giving up huge goddamn plays every fucking game. Force a turnover you fucks. The Fuller pick doesn't count, that was a gift from the refs). Even with all the adjustments and personnel swaps we are sooooooooooo far from competing with actual decent teams.

Anybody who thinks we're competing for a division title right now is nuts. This includes Riverboat Ron. Compete for the future and try to develop the young talent, and hopefully we get a decent qb in the draft, because with 1 win we've probably already lost the 1st overall pick to the Jets.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by mooby

I'm done with this season too. Idk who to blame for the terrible offense, but everybody is garbage. The playcalling is garbage. Kyle Allen is garbage. The pass blocking is garbage. The run blocking is garbage. The non-Terry Mac wideouts are garbage. The tight ends are garbage.

It says a lot that Rivera hypes up Allen as the guy he has the most trust in, and then Allen goes out and his only difference is putting a couple td's on the board, but they're both negated by absolutely terrible turnovers. Allen looks like a future Ryan Fitzpatrick, only we really haven't seen Allen's magic yet (even giving credit for both td's today, congrats on the fade TD too that only took us 7 years to finally complete).

The defense is garbage (basing this on giving up huge goddamn plays every fucking game. Force a turnover you fucks. The Fuller pick doesn't count, that was a gift from the refs). Even with all the adjustments and personnel swaps we are sooooooooooo far from competing with actual decent teams.

Anybody who thinks we're competing for a division title right now is nuts. This includes Riverboat Ron. Compete for the future and try to develop the young talent, and hopefully we get a decent qb in the draft, because with 1 win we've probably already lost the 1st overall pick to the Jets.

Looking at our schedule, I’m not sure they win another game. Certainly won’t be favored in anymore


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[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by mooby

I'm done with this season too. Idk who to blame for the terrible offense, but everybody is garbage. The playcalling is garbage. Kyle Allen is garbage. The pass blocking is garbage. The run blocking is garbage. The non-Terry Mac wideouts are garbage. The tight ends are garbage.

It says a lot that Rivera hypes up Allen as the guy he has the most trust in, and then Allen goes out and his only difference is putting a couple td's on the board, but they're both negated by absolutely terrible turnovers. Allen looks like a future Ryan Fitzpatrick, only we really haven't seen Allen's magic yet (even giving credit for both td's today, congrats on the fade TD too that only took us 7 years to finally complete).

The defense is garbage (basing this on giving up huge goddamn plays every fucking game. Force a turnover you fucks. The Fuller pick doesn't count, that was a gift from the refs). Even with all the adjustments and personnel swaps we are sooooooooooo far from competing with actual decent teams.

Anybody who thinks we're competing for a division title right now is nuts. This includes Riverboat Ron. Compete for the future and try to develop the young talent, and hopefully we get a decent qb in the draft, because with 1 win we've probably already lost the 1st overall pick to the Jets.

Well to be fair, that last call sure didn't look like trying to win the division. The narrative being put out there doesn't match the decisions being made.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Pervis_Griffith

For me the jury is out on Rivera.

I am no longer buying the narrative that Rivera is this master culture builder, and all his moves are designed to continue building this team.

Going for 2, after his offense had showed an ability to move the ball on the Giants, and the defense had shown the ability to get a stop, does NOT send the signal to the team that your coach believes in you. It sends the opposite message.

Yop.
Last season, same situation, Dolphins went for 2 against us. We all knew what it meant. We were all aware we just got handed an easy win by a team who had given up on the season and wasn't trying to win.
We're on the other hand of the same situation.
Rivera went for the loss.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Yop.
Last season, same situation, Dolphins went for 2 against us. We all knew what it meant. We were all aware we just got handed an easy win by a team who had given up on the season and wasn't trying to win.
We're on the other hand of the same situation.
Rivera went for the loss.

Seeing as the dolphins ended with more wins than we did last year I dont think they gifted us a win. We went for the win and it didnt work. It happens. We are a bad team with some good pieces that can be built around (Young, Sweat, Allen, Payne, Matty I. Fuller, McLaurin, and I do like what we have seen from Gibson) our offensive line is terrible and has to be addressed as well as our safeties among other things. The Giants put up 34 last week vs. the Cowboys and outside of that run by Jones they didnt have explosive break your back plays. Both of their TDs came directly from turnovers. We all knew we werent gonna be good this year but we didnt know that the division would be absolutely garbage too.

[skinsfaninok]

I’ll wait to judge after the A22 but where the hell has chase young been?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I’ll wait to judge after the A22 but where the hell has chase young been?

The entire dline...1 sack today. Pathetic

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I’ll wait to judge after the A22 but where the hell has chase young been?

The generational pass rusher? lol. Pretty sad that those guys had one sack against the Giants.

[Skinsfanatic]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The generational pass rusher? lol. Pretty sad that those guys had one sack against the Giants.

Jones was 12 of 19 with seven runs (several called). Garrett game planned around negating our edge rush. The rest of the defense, like the linebackers, need the able to adapt when players like Chase make the other team do something differently.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The generational pass rusher? lol. Pretty sad that those guys had one sack against the Giants.

I don't think he's 100% yet, and he had a nice pressure on the INT that Jones threw in the end zone.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Very frustrated we have a great WR under a rookie deal and by the time we get the QB situation straightened out he will be playing for another team.

[Chico23231]

From PFF:

The Giants have one of the worst pass-protecting offensive lines in the NFL, having allowed the second-most pressures (99) through the first five weeks. But facing off against a defensive line that featured five first-round picks, New York held up in the trenches and allowed just five total pressures.


What happened?