Redskins trade for Alex Smith

SkinzWin · 01-31-2018, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HailGreen28

It's bad. We basically switched out Cousins for an older version of himself, costing us a good corner and a 3rd round pick to do so.

(And no, the way this front office signs old free agents to this team, we aren't getting any comp pick back)

We could have had Cousins for 20-25 mil a year, instead of this situation, if we had signed him earlier like a smart front office would have.

And when we lose next season like we did this season, how long will Smith really last here? KC was ready to move on from Smith after a 10-6 season!

And I don't get why folks are OK with last season and say we were competitive. We were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs by week 15. We were never competitive this season. Anybody think we are going to be better when we are just treading water with moves like this?

What is your alternative solution at QB for next year? If you don’t have a QB, your chances of any possibility of success are next to zero.

HailGreen28 · 01-31-2018, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzWin

What is your alternative solution at QB for next year? If you don’t have a QB, your chances of any possibility of success are next to zero.

We didn't succeed with Cousins last season. We won't with Smith next season.

Fire Bruce Allen. Get Snyder out of the football side of operations altogether.

Get someone like Nick Caserio, Mark Dominik, Eric DeCosta, Rick Mueller, Dave Gettleman, or Chris Ballard. ANY of these guys would be a massive upgrade. Let them do what THEY want at QB.

If it were my choice, I would like them to draft a QB and build from there. Like the Eagles and Rams have. We are NOT contenders now.

SFREDSKIN · 01-31-2018, 06:10 PM

Oh it just gets better, from Shefter:

Kansas City is expected to receive a second-round pick from Washington for Alex Smith and possibly more, per source. But a second-round pick was the price as of this morning, before trade between KC and Washington finalized.

SkinzWin · 01-31-2018, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HailGreen28

We didn't succeed with Cousins last season. We won't with Smith next season.

Fire Bruce Allen. Get Snyder out of the football side of operations altogether.

Get someone like Nick Caserio, Mark Dominik, Eric DeCosta, Rick Mueller, Dave Gettleman, or Chris Ballard. ANY of these guys would be a massive upgrade. Let them do what THEY want at QB.

If it were my choice, I would like them to draft a QB and build from there. Like the Eagles and Rams have. We are NOT contenders now.

I find it funny you can guarantee Smith won’t be successful because Cousins wasn’t. Especially before FA and the draft even begin.

BaltimoreSkins · 01-31-2018, 10:54 AM

Everyone keeps saying we are getting a third round compensation for KC but my understanding is if we go on a FA buying spree we won't get that. The compensatory picks are for teams that are "losers" during FA. Do I have that wrong?

skinsfaninok · 01-31-2018, 10:55 AM

D.J. Swearinger rips Washington Redskins for trading CB Kendall Fuller

skinsfan69 · 01-31-2018, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

D.J. Swearinger rips Washington Redskins for trading CB Kendall Fuller

Good for DJ. He gets it and he knows how good Fuller can be.

MTK · 01-31-2018, 11:55 AM

Cousins is going to have several teams after him which will only drive up his price. No way he settles for anything less than being the highest paid player in the NFL.

FrenchSkin · 01-31-2018, 11:57 AM

I also have a question for those who are 100% positive we got worst at QB: looking at stats, points, wins, and tape, what 12 QBs are without any doubt way better than Alex Smith ?

rocnrik · 01-31-2018, 12:35 PM

I learned something this year watching playoffs .the system and overall team talent gets you as far as the top dog elite Qb in most cases. Cousins had his chance 2 seasons ago when he had a top offensive team around him and could not win against giants. That game seems to define who he is and at the time I remember everybody calling him out! So here we are he is gone and I for one am relieved . I like Smith and I believe he can have success here but we need other help. NEEDS Run game, WR ....enough of the excuses for Doctson time to step up! I would have rather kept fuller and moved doctson . This team is not better losing Cousins but it could be worse , I agree with all of you who blast the front office I have been saying that a long time but that ain’t changing . Let’s hope we draft smart get some FA in here and maybe next year we can win 9 plus games and have a shot at playoffs!

mahomes · 01-31-2018, 12:36 PM

This trade will be brilliant for the redskins if you draft a qb and realize that is the solution not smith. Smith will actually help him unlike all other QBs.

Irrefutable · 01-31-2018, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mahomes

This trade will be brilliant for the redskins if you draft a qb and realize that is the solution not smith. Smith will actually help him unlike all other QBs.

Smith has five years left on his contract, with $71 guaranteed. They will not draft a QB in the early rounds.... if at all.

itvnetop · 01-31-2018, 12:38 PM

I would listen to DJ Swearinger. Fuller- Best defensive player last year. Preparation. Locker room guy. Look, of course I hope Alex Smith can replicate what Cousins did- this is me even discounting the fact we don’t have a Kareem Hunt, Travis Kelce or Tyreek Hill. I just take issue with this narrative that Fuller is “just a good cb” or “just a slot guy” or “our third/backup.” Our defensive captain just called him the best player we had last season on his side of the ball... and those aren’t just emotions talking- the numbers back it up.

Trading a guy like that on a rookie contract for bridge qb who lacks the weapons he had before is hard to swallow. Throw in a third and it just reminds me of a previous trade to give up the best cb in football and a second for a running back (moving Champ was mandatory considering his personal drama in DC, but still- these sweeteners only seem to come from this organization.. different FO, but still).

If Alex Smith is more than a two year bridge QB and he puts up the same stats/record as KC, I’ll actually be sort of alright with this. But i don’t even think the former is true. And I don’t trade our highest rated defensive player for a bridge.

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skinsfan69 · 01-31-2018, 12:46 PM

I believe the Redskins are currently trying to trade Cousins.

Chico23231 · 01-31-2018, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I believe the Redskins are currently trying to trade Cousins.

I thought he couldn't be traded?

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01-31-2018, 06:10 PM	#3
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith Oh it just gets better, from Shefter: Kansas City is expected to receive a second-round pick from Washington for Alex Smith and possibly more, per source. But a second-round pick was the price as of this morning, before trade between KC and Washington finalized. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

01-31-2018, 10:54 AM	#5
BaltimoreSkins Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Parkton, MD Posts: 5,779	Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith Everyone keeps saying we are getting a third round compensation for KC but my understanding is if we go on a FA buying spree we won't get that. The compensatory picks are for teams that are "losers" during FA. Do I have that wrong?

01-31-2018, 10:55 AM	#6
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,175	Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith D.J. Swearinger rips Washington Redskins for trading CB Kendall Fuller __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

01-31-2018, 11:55 AM	#8
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,768	Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith Cousins is going to have several teams after him which will only drive up his price. No way he settles for anything less than being the highest paid player in the NFL. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-31-2018, 11:57 AM	#9
FrenchSkin Playmaker Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 4,525	Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith I also have a question for those who are 100% positive we got worst at QB: looking at stats, points, wins, and tape, what 12 QBs are without any doubt way better than Alex Smith ? __________________ Derz Ambassaderz in the Land of the Rising Sun. Oui Monsieur.

01-31-2018, 12:35 PM	#10
rocnrik Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,755	Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith I learned something this year watching playoffs .the system and overall team talent gets you as far as the top dog elite Qb in most cases. Cousins had his chance 2 seasons ago when he had a top offensive team around him and could not win against giants. That game seems to define who he is and at the time I remember everybody calling him out! So here we are he is gone and I for one am relieved . I like Smith and I believe he can have success here but we need other help. NEEDS Run game, WR ....enough of the excuses for Doctson time to step up! I would have rather kept fuller and moved doctson . This team is not better losing Cousins but it could be worse , I agree with all of you who blast the front office I have been saying that a long time but that ain’t changing . Let’s hope we draft smart get some FA in here and maybe next year we can win 9 plus games and have a shot at playoffs!

01-31-2018, 12:36 PM	#11
mahomes Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 8	Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith This trade will be brilliant for the redskins if you draft a qb and realize that is the solution not smith. Smith will actually help him unlike all other QBs.

01-31-2018, 12:38 PM	#13
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 48 Posts: 3,007	Redskins trade for Alex Smith I would listen to DJ Swearinger. Fuller- Best defensive player last year. Preparation. Locker room guy. Look, of course I hope Alex Smith can replicate what Cousins did- this is me even discounting the fact we don’t have a Kareem Hunt, Travis Kelce or Tyreek Hill. I just take issue with this narrative that Fuller is “just a good cb” or “just a slot guy” or “our third/backup.” Our defensive captain just called him the best player we had last season on his side of the ball... and those aren’t just emotions talking- the numbers back it up. Trading a guy like that on a rookie contract for bridge qb who lacks the weapons he had before is hard to swallow. Throw in a third and it just reminds me of a previous trade to give up the best cb in football and a second for a running back (moving Champ was mandatory considering his personal drama in DC, but still- these sweeteners only seem to come from this organization.. different FO, but still). If Alex Smith is more than a two year bridge QB and he puts up the same stats/record as KC, I’ll actually be sort of alright with this. But i don’t even think the former is true. And I don’t trade our highest rated defensive player for a bridge. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk __________________ "Sit your five dollar ass down before I make change." - Nino Brown my blather

01-31-2018, 12:46 PM	#14
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,386	Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith I believe the Redskins are currently trying to trade Cousins.

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