The Official 2007 Draft Discussion Thread

[DGreene28]

Originally Posted by Tha Posse

Anyone have an idea who will be available post June 1. DE or DT??

One option may be Simeon Rice. He has been rumored to be on the trading block due to his huge salary and age. Not sure how that has changed after they drafted Adams

[TenandSix:Unacceptable]

Originally Posted by GMScud

We better get Kris Jenkins. Landry is a great player, but you HAVE TO address needs, and we didn't do that. We need DL something terrible. We'll see what happens.

So, PP, Omar, and Vernon are long term non-upgradeable players at safety?

Hmmm. No. So, it actually was a need position. The only debate is whether or not we now have too much invested at safety, a highly valid question.

And by the way, in all likelihood LaRon Landry is going to become one of the most popular Redskins players, quickly. Let's just see how this plays out before we jump to conclusions. What's done is done, and I for one will be looking for people who cry about this pick, only to become huge Landry Lovers once this guy shows us all what he is capable of on the field. I will personally hand out huge plates of crow pie to all those who are guilty of this likely and predictable flip flop.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by TenandSix:Unacceptable

So, PP, Omar, and Vernon are long term non upgradeable players at saftey?

Hmmm. No. So, it actually was a need postion. The only debate is whether or not we now have too much invested at saftey, a highly valid question.

And by the way, LaRon Landry is going to become one of the most popular Redskins players, quickly. Let's just see how this plays out before we jump to conclusions. What's done is done, and I for one will be looking for people who cry about this pick, only to become huge Landry Lovers once this guy shows us all what he is capable of on the field. I will personally hand out huge plates of crow pie to all those who are guilty of this likely and predictable flip flop.

Ummm, so you are totally misreading what I'm saying. I think LL is a phenomenal prospect at his position. I am thrilled to have him. But when I look at how many teams got better at multiple positions, and when I look at how the Skins had ZERO picks in rounds 2-4, it sickens me when I see how many DL prospects passed us by. While LL may be awesome, we needed DL worse than safety. We better do something after June 1...

[TenandSix:Unacceptable]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Ummm, so you are totally misreading what I'm saying. I think LL is a phenomenal prospect at his position. I am thrilled to have him. But when I look at how many teams got better at multiple positions, and when I look at how the Skins had ZERO picks in rounds 2-4, it sickens me when I see how many DL prospects passed us by. While LL may be awesome, we needed DL worse than safety. We better do something after June 1...

I figured when you said, "we HAVE TO address needs, we didn't do that", that you where saying that safety was not a need position, when IMO it was. Correct me if I'm wrong.

DL continues to be a glaring need for this football team. We very well may not be competitive again until that is addressed. In the meantime, we no longer have any need whatsoever at the safety position, that much is now abundantly clear.

It is sometimes impossible to address multiple needs on an NFL football team when you have only one pick on day one of the draft. The frustrating part is that it is of our own doing. Hopefully, the lesson has been learned. Judging by recent indications, it has been. Notice that we have not traded away any more of next years draft picks for "established" players or for more draft picks this year.

I like the drafting of Landry, a lot. If I'm the GM of the Skins I'm looking to plug the holes as best I can on the defensive line this year, and next year I will be hard pressed to pass up on solid DL prospects in the first and second rounds. By that time, we will also have gathered a lot more information on Jason Campbell, who more than any one person will dictate the fortunes of the franchise.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by GMScud

We better get Kris Jenkins. Landry is a great player, but you HAVE TO address needs, and we didn't do that. We need DL something terrible. We'll see what happens.

i agree...our line sucks.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by TenandSix:Unacceptable

I figured when you said, "we HAVE TO address needs, we didn't do that", that you where saying that safety was not a need position, when IMO it was. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I think what he's saying is, safety was a NEED position, but certainly an upgradable one. We NEED DLINE! We could have used a back up QB too since Brunell is inconsistant and old, and Collins is a nobody, so would Quinn have been a "need" as well?? I say no. A NEED is something we needed immediately and if not filled would still leave us hurting. (ie: DLINE)

DL continues to be a glaring need for this football team. We very well may not be competitive again until that is addressed. In the meantime, we no longer have any need whatsoever at the safety position, that much is now abundantly clear.

I'm glad to hear you say that, cause it seems everyone is drinking this landry cool-aid...and let's face it, it's tasty cool-aid, but we needed to address another position. AT least we know the secondary is not going to be an issue at all this season.

It is sometimes impossible to address multiple needs on an NFL football team when you have only one pick on day one of the draft. The frustrating part is that it is of our own doing. Hopefully, the lesson has been learned. Judging by recent indications, it has been. Notice that we have not traded away any more of next years draft picks for "established" players or for more draft picks this year.

For now anyway...knowing our dline is subpar, we could very well trade a pick away for a DE or something.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by TenandSix:Unacceptable

So, PP, Omar, and Vernon are long term non-upgradeable players at safety?

Hmmm. No. So, it actually was a need position. The only debate is whether or not we now have too much invested at safety, a highly valid question.

And by the way, in all likelihood LaRon Landry is going to become one of the most popular Redskins players, quickly. Let's just see how this plays out before we jump to conclusions. What's done is done, and I for one will be looking for people who cry about this pick, only to become huge Landry Lovers once this guy shows us all what he is capable of on the field. I will personally hand out huge plates of crow pie to all those who are guilty of this likely and predictable flip flop.

I don't think anyone is actually upset that Landry is going to be next to Taylor. I don't think anyone wants the guy to be a bust. I think everyone wants Landry to be a Pro Bowler and will root for him. BUT, I think there are a lot of people who question the emphasis on the secondary at the expense of the D-line. I think that's a reasonable view.

Can I keep a plate of crow pie for those who think our D-line didn't need an upgrade via the 6th pick?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I don't think anyone is actually upset that Landry is going to be next to Taylor. I don't think anyone wants the guy to be a bust. I think everyone wants Landry to be a Pro Bowler and will root for him. BUT, I think there are a lot of people who question the emphasis on the secondary at the expense of the D-line. I think that's a reasonable view.

EXACTLY. Good job SGG, right on the money!

Can I keep a plate of crow pie for those who think our D-line didn't need an upgrade via the 6th pick?

HAHA, hell yeah.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Way to address D-line. God we suck. Our FO is the laughing stock of the NFL.

After today I'd say that title belongs to Miami. Ginn at #9 was awful.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

After today I'd say that title belongs to Miami. Ginn at #9 was awful.

I was simply shocked by Miami's decision. On that note, did anyone see Cam Cameron's press conference? The fans were booing. Priceless stuff.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

After today I'd say that title belongs to Miami. Ginn at #9 was awful.

That was a completely dumb pick...especially cause he would not have gone for at least another 10 picks. But you never know. Everyone laughed at the Colts when they took Edgerrin James a while back, and look how he turned out. I personally don't think Ginn will be anything special at all, but you never know.

[charlielyons]

Originally Posted by jsarno

That was a completely dumb pick...especially cause he would not have gone for at least another 10 picks. But you never know. Everyone laughed at the Colts when they took Edgerrin James a while back, and look how he turned out. I personally don't think Ginn will be anything special at all, but you never know.

we will find out who the laughing stock is when landry taked ginns head off week 1

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by charlielyons

we will find out who the laughing stock is when landry taked ginns head off week 1

But gibbs said there is no one in the draft that would be a starter right away. hahaha

[charlielyons]

Originally Posted by jsarno

But gibbs said there is no one in the draft that would be a starter right away. hahaha

kickoff return or punt return is possible if hes not starting yet

[GusFrerotte]

I would make a good bet Landry starts come September as long as he has a high learning curve when it comes to picking up the game at the pro level. To throw away a #6 pick and automatically say he isn't starting is moronic on Gibbs part. What if we picked up Gaines, Branch, etc? Are you telling me Gibbs wouldn't even think of starting those guys over the sorry ass geezers we now have on the D line? Landry has all the potential to become another impact player for us the same way Champ, Fred, and now Sean were/are for us coming straight from the draft.