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Old 08-27-2019, 02:26 PM   #271
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I see Gruden’s only path to staying beyond this season to developing Haskins. Defenses will know Guice and AP are good and they will put 8 in the box until Case shows he can get it downfield AND the OL proves it can pass protect.

6 years has proved Jay Gruden to be an average AT BEST, head coach. He can’t get the team prepared for “must win” games, he’s predictable and he rarely wins the second half. After we get through the first 5 games, at 1-4, he’ll put in Haskins to try to save his career. Not by winning games, but by developing him.


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Old 08-27-2019, 02:33 PM   #272
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I see Gruden’s only path to staying beyond this season to developing Haskins. Defenses will know Guice and AP are good and they will put 8 in the box until Case shows he can get it downfield AND the OL proves it can pass protect.

6 years has proved Jay Gruden to be an average AT BEST, head coach. He can’t get the team prepared for “must win” games, he’s predictable and he rarely wins the second half. After we get through the first 5 games, at 1-4, he’ll put in Haskins to try to save his career. Not by winning games, but by developing him.


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I think we'll be 2-3 but Haskins will start after Thanksgiving
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Old 08-27-2019, 02:44 PM   #273
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I see Haskins playing in the first half of the season.

Case will have to show he can move the team by passing, because the ground game will be closed by teams stacking the line to prevent it. Also our OL is going have to prove they can really pass protect.


The one group I have faith in is the WRs. They will be severely unrated and they have some talent, speed, side and youth with C.Sims, Quinn, Richardson, MacLaurin, Davis and Harmon.


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Old 08-27-2019, 03:09 PM   #274
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Gruden named flowers the starter at LG

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Old 08-27-2019, 03:24 PM   #275
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This is exactly like the Keemun / Haskins situation. Martin is slightly worse than Flowers RIGHT NOW, but it Gruden would start the rookies on Day 1, they would probably be better than the veteran by halfway through the season and certainly by December.

Flowers is going to be trampled by pass rushers until Gruden brings in Martin.


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Old 08-27-2019, 03:40 PM   #276
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This is exactly like the Keemun / Haskins situation. Martin is slightly worse than Flowers RIGHT NOW, but it Gruden would start the rookies on Day 1, they would probably be better than the veteran by halfway through the season and certainly by December.

Flowers is going to be trampled by pass rushers until Gruden brings in Martin.


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I don't have a problem with this IF Gruden finds a way to overcome Flowers' deficiency as a pass blocker.

Also, this team is going to run the hell out of the ball, so at least Flowers showed some improvement on that.
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Old 08-27-2019, 04:18 PM   #277
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That won’t last long, so I’m not worried.
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Old 08-27-2019, 04:43 PM   #278
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I think people are underselling Flowers. Watch the 1's, and Flowers specifically, on power runs to the left, he opened the lane for AP and Guice's biggest runs. We will have to help the left side in passing but you pull Scherf around and Guice and AP are going to be explosive.

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Old 08-27-2019, 04:55 PM   #279
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So I’ve heard his name a couple times, Keim saying he could make the roster:

“Jay Gruden said of WR Steven Sims: “electric. Has the speed to separate... has a ways to go as far as getting ready to play. I love the prospect of getting the ball in his hands.” He has a definite shot to make this roster. ...”

So 2 Sims at WR?
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So I’ve heard his name a couple times, Keim saying he could make the roster:

“Jay Gruden said of WR Steven Sims: “electric. Has the speed to separate... has a ways to go as far as getting ready to play. I love the prospect of getting the ball in his hands.” He has a definite shot to make this roster. ...”

So 2 Sims at WR?
Mclaurin, Richardson, Quinn, Harmon, Davis, Cam Sims. I think he ends up in the PS.
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I think people are underselling Flowers. Watch the 1's, and Flowers specifically, on power runs to the left, he opened the lane for AP and Guice's biggest runs. We will have to help the left side in passing but you pull Scherf around and Guice and AP are going to be explosive.

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this... he's been a bit of a road grader on some of the runs. However, he's going to have plays that are so bad that you wonder why is he playing in the first place, like the play on the goaline last week.
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Old 08-27-2019, 06:07 PM   #282
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So I’ve heard his name a couple times, Keim saying he could make the roster:

“Jay Gruden said of WR Steven Sims: “electric. Has the speed to separate... has a ways to go as far as getting ready to play. I love the prospect of getting the ball in his hands.” He has a definite shot to make this roster. ...”

So 2 Sims at WR?
I think he should be in the slot and we may see him there cause there is no way that Quinn will stay on the field.
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Old 08-27-2019, 09:44 PM   #283
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Old 08-27-2019, 09:57 PM   #284
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I would really be on the hunt for guards and tackles during cuts. Also if a stud is cut at ILB, I’d probably would grabbed him.
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Old 08-27-2019, 10:48 PM   #285
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I'm shocked that not only did Flowers make the team but he's actually going to be starting. Flowers and 36 year old Penn. This is going to be a shit show on obvious passing downs.
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