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05-14-2024, 08:45 AM | #1 |
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Re: 2024 Commanders Off-Season Thread
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05-14-2024, 09:24 AM | #2 |
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The minute someone claims Redskins is a derogatory term I will always respond. I will never cede to that claim when it is emphatically false. Additionally, that slurs the fans that still buy and wear the gear and ultimately poses a threat to them as well.
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05-14-2024, 04:10 PM | #3 | |
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Emphatically false huh? Ok. Scroll past the Smithsonian article. Lol. You are talking about a word that is literally centuries old and you were not around for any time on this Earth that it was used other than for a football team. It is completely up for debate like many things, so to say it is emphatically false because of an article you read is crazy. To ignore native Americans that think it is derogatory is crazy. It is emphatically a lightning rod for controversy but not emphatically false. There are most certainly articles that back that opinion just like the ones that back the other opinion. Im going to post one and then I won’t come back into this thread for a couple days so it gets buried and I can stop talking about, which I thought happened like 2 years ago. Lol. https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...n-name-update/ |
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"I am currently doing some research for the peer review of an academic paper, and began by Google searching "redskin etymology." This article came up on the first page. I felt the need to create an account and actually comment on this, which would probably go unread and be nothing more than a shout into the void, only because of my incredulity of the shoddiness of this publication's journalism. The article purports that there is a document from 1863 that proves that redskin refers to the scalp of a Native American, sold like a pelt, for cash. The document itself, however, directly contradicts this. "The state reward for dead Indians has been increased to $200 for every redskin sent to Purgatory." The author of this article may not be theologically inclined, but a scalp, in fact, cannot go to Purgatory, because this refers to a Catholic teaching about a state of purification before one goes to Heaven. Redskin, then, must refer to the individuals who possess the souls capable of being sent to such a theological state. Therefore, the document that the author says proves his claim directly contradicts it." Again, it is scholars versus activists and obviously you find the activists take much more credible. And yes "emphatically false" is the correct description of the claim that Redskins is a derogatory term. (BTW I didn't just cite Goddard (is there a better source?) the Marquet law school scholarly publication also provides damn good information refuting that claim). Last edited by nonniey; 05-14-2024 at 07:08 PM. |
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For context lol |
05-14-2024, 08:58 AM | #6 |
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Well, I think it's fair to talk about. It's been debated ad nauseum, and we all know the name isn't coming back, but the conversation was sparked by the shirt worn by the new Head Coach. Like it or not (nothing burger or not) it was an event that occurred during this off-season and this isn't the only forum in which conversations about it are taking place.
What exactly was the purpose of wearing that shirt. I mean it was purposeful, right? |
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It’s a cool shirt, I don’t think it means anything else
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05-14-2024, 12:27 PM | #8 |
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I don't even think it's a cool shirt. One thing (the feathers) has nothing to do with the other (Commanders W).
Someone printed that shirt to stir the pot - and it worked. He chose to wear it. Surely, he wasn't oblivious to that fact. |
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edit: Also the people who are selling that shirt are going to make money where the Washington doesn't, Or vice versa if they are selling it through a third party and trying to gauge interest My brother JoeRedskin already bought that shirt, nd he hasn't bought Washington gear since the any of the changes, so I have a feeling it's going to have more interest than anything the Washington Commander sells Sent from my SM-G781U using Tapatalk |
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Me either, (any non redskins stuff anyway) ..... and I'd buy that shirt.
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Since this has come up ... Commanders owners have no plans in the works to change the name, according to a person with knowledge of the matter. |
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Dan Quinn on the T-shirt: "I think one of the parts of me taking this job, I was excited to bridge the past and the present. What a cool privilege that is to do. I also recognize there's a lot of layers to that. So, it was a great lesson for me. What I really hate is that any attention that would've been taken away from these rookies and this awesome crew. Nobody wants to do that."
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