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Old 04-20-2020, 01:53 PM   #256
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I mean you can't make this shit up: https://www.reddit.com/r/maryland/co...e_are/fnstpyl/

Like that is publicly available data and sure as shit looks MAD suspicious.
Russians again? that's what I see in the thread...*sigh*

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Old 04-20-2020, 02:17 PM   #257
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Major U.S. restaurant chains have secured millions in government-backed loans that Congress created to keep small businesses afloat during the coronavirus pandemic.

Under the $349 billion Paycheck Protection Program, which ran out of money last week, Potbelly Corp., the nationwide sandwich shop chain, and Ruth's Hospitality Group, which operates a series of steakhouses, are among the big restaurants that have reported receiving loans. Prior to the virus outbreak, they reported employing thousands of workers.

Congress established the program for businesses that employ fewer than 500 workers in the $2.2 trillion CARES Act. But restaurants and hotels were granted some flexibility in the legislation — so long as they employed no more than 500 workers at any single location, they could apply for the aid.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/bi...organ-backlash

Not sure how I view this. Ideally huge companies like Ruth Chris steakhouse wouldn’t get PPP money ... but if they use it to keep employees on the payroll, thousands of employees on the payroll ... doesn’t that mean regular joes and janes are still employed and getting a paycheck vs being laid off?

Perhaps they will just take the super low interest loan and not worry about qualifying for a write off.

I just can’t see Ruth Chris restaurants even being open right now so how could they still employ people if there is no work to do?

Good for shake shack to give back the money.

Also read an article JP Chase didn’t process loans on first come first served as required and “shuffled” the applications giving the biggest loan requests priority bc they got a bigger fee out of it.
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Old 04-20-2020, 02:35 PM   #258
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Major U.S. restaurant chains have secured millions in government-backed loans that Congress created to keep small businesses afloat during the coronavirus pandemic.

Under the $349 billion Paycheck Protection Program, which ran out of money last week, Potbelly Corp., the nationwide sandwich shop chain, and Ruth's Hospitality Group, which operates a series of steakhouses, are among the big restaurants that have reported receiving loans. Prior to the virus outbreak, they reported employing thousands of workers.

Congress established the program for businesses that employ fewer than 500 workers in the $2.2 trillion CARES Act. But restaurants and hotels were granted some flexibility in the legislation — so long as they employed no more than 500 workers at any single location, they could apply for the aid.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/bi...organ-backlash

Not sure how I view this. Ideally huge companies like Ruth Chris steakhouse wouldn’t get PPP money ... but if they use it to keep employees on the payroll, thousands of employees on the payroll ... doesn’t that mean regular joes and janes are still employed and getting a paycheck vs being laid off?

Perhaps they will just take the super low interest loan and not worry about qualifying for a write off.

I just can’t see Ruth Chris restaurants even being open right now so how could they still employ people if there is no work to do?

Good for shake shack to give back the money.

Also read an article JP Chase didn’t process loans on first come first served as required and “shuffled” the applications giving the biggest loan requests priority bc they got a bigger fee out of it.
If you are talking about a bank that broke the law or business circumvented the application...Thank you to the existing Controls and Regs that are effectively working. I think its Wells Fargo by the way.


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I cant get over people who are mad the response but want the Government to run healthcare industry.
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Old 04-20-2020, 02:38 PM   #259
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Nothing more dumb right now than people out protesting the stay at home orders, like seriously WTF





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1. She is kind of hot.

2. She is kind of dumb, the mask is to protect others not to protect yourself and she supports Trump

3. I still do her. =)
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Old 04-20-2020, 03:11 PM   #260
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Russians again? that's what I see in the thread...*sigh*

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Just putting it out there for comment. I mean there's legit info you can glean from that (obviously tons of conspiracy theory stuff in there as well). Regardless, someONE (or group) is just making a shit ton of these sites? I mean that is MAD fishy.
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Old 04-20-2020, 03:51 PM   #261
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Just putting it out there for comment. I mean there's legit info you can glean from that (obviously tons of conspiracy theory stuff in there as well). Regardless, someONE (or group) is just making a shit ton of these sites? I mean that is MAD fishy.
sure...but its probably a conservative group setting these up, trying to spread the "open up the state" movement with other conservative groups around the country. Who knows? We saw progressive "astroturf" the same type of way paying protesters "per diem" to protest the Kavanaugh nomination. Its similar tactics used by both sides.

I will say this...I know a progressive married couple in Richmond and they are on board with the open the state up movement. Folks, like it or not, working affects both Dems and Reps, Left wingers, right wingers...people are struggling. If you have seen the food drives in Maryland and Texas...cars lined up for miles, that's a real thing.
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Old 04-20-2020, 04:22 PM   #262
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1. She is kind of hot.

2. She is kind of dumb, the mask is to protect others not to protect yourself and she supports Trump

3. I still do her. =)
I oppose nose bull rings and those disgusting gaping ear hole piercings in every way possible. Like WTF would anyone voluntarily do that to their ears for.

That being said, I still agree with No. 3.

I'd still do her too lol!
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Old 04-20-2020, 04:25 PM   #263
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Russia and China both want our country to have infighting, discord, and economic problems. That applies to Democrats and Republicans. They do a good job of getting us to fight each other rather than realizing the truth. They are against all of us and will use any means necessary. We gotta unite the clans.

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sure...but its probably a conservative group setting these up, trying to spread the "open up the state" movement with other conservative groups around the country. Who knows? We saw progressive "astroturf" the same type of way paying protesters "per diem" to protest the Kavanaugh nomination. Its similar tactics used by both sides.

I will say this...I know a progressive married couple in Richmond and they are on board with the open the state up movement. Folks, like it or not, working affects both Dems and Reps, Left wingers, right wingers...people are struggling. If you have seen the food drives in Maryland and Texas...cars lined up for miles, that's a real thing.
I identify as a democrat and I am on board with the protests. In SOME of the states, i feel the governors have went too far. Who comes in and saves the people if a Governor were to go crazy? Is there anything that lets the Feds take over? Just a few days ago Michigan's governor told people that if they kept protesting, she would make the lockdowns go on even longer if they kept it up. So in a pissing match like that, who saves the citizens if the Governor sets out to deny them their basic freedoms out of spite?
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Re: Coronavirus (political)

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If you are talking about a bank that broke the law or business circumvented the application...Thank you to the existing Controls and Regs that are effectively working. I think its Wells Fargo by the way.


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I cant get over people who are mad the response but want the Government to run healthcare industry.
chico a little something Pelosi is trying to correct but hey screw it ,right?


https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/harva...033517131.html

Harvard University, already supported by a massive $41 billion endowment, is getting nearly $9 million in taxpayer aid from the federal Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security Act, the U.S. Department of Education announced.

Under the terms of the payout from CARES’ Higher Education Emergency Relief Fund, at least half of the $8.7 million earmarked for Harvard must be reserved for emergency financial grants to students, according to the Harvard Crimson, which was the first to report the aid.

But at least some of that money — which could be used to cover tuition payments and course materials — would also end up in Harvard coffers. The funds would also likely be spent on extra technology, food and housing costs that students incurred amid “disruptions in their education” due to COVID-19, according to CARES provisions
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Old 04-20-2020, 06:28 PM   #266
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Re: Coronavirus (political)

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If you are talking about a bank that broke the law or business circumvented the application...Thank you to the existing Controls and Regs that are effectively working. I think its Wells Fargo by the way.


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I cant get over people who are mad the response but want the Government to run healthcare industry.
I’ve been reading about J.P. Morgan chase. They are one of two banks in California getting sued. In addition to Wells Fargo, b of a etc

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...us/5163654002/

There’s a difference between being mad ... and trying to read and understand an issue.
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I’ve been reading about J.P. Morgan chase. They are one of two banks in California getting sued. In addition to Wells Fargo, b of a etc

There’s a difference between being mad ... and trying to read and understand an issue.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/we...-program-loans

Wells Fargo just can't stop fucking up. They manage our 401K at my job. Hopefully their investment practices are better than their banking practices.
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So in a pissing match like that, who saves the citizens if the Governor sets out to deny them their basic freedoms out of spite?
The Governor does what is right for the people,even if they are too stupid to understand for themselves,it's why she was elected,it's her job.
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Old 04-20-2020, 08:18 PM   #269
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I’ve been reading about J.P. Morgan chase. They are one of two banks in California getting sued. In addition to Wells Fargo, b of a etc

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...us/5163654002/

There’s a difference between being mad ... and trying to read and understand an issue.
SS this doesn’t speak to pelosi holding up the funding or a reason...all these entities qualified appropriately for funding as well as without a known KYC biased based. I think it’s gonna fairly obvious if they misappropriated funds based on approvals ...it was directed as first come for serve...this will be an easy audit to see if their is any bases for the suit.

I didn’t know about chase...Wells Fargo was having issues 3 weeks ago, no surprise there.
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I’ve been reading about J.P. Morgan chase. They are one of two banks in California getting sued. In addition to Wells Fargo, b of a etc

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...us/5163654002/

There’s a difference between being mad ... and trying to read and understand an issue.
SS this doesn’t speak to pelosi holding up the funding or a reason...all these entities qualified appropriately for funding as well as without a known KYC biased based. I think it’s gonna fairly obvious if they misappropriated funds based on approvals ...it was directed as first come for serve...this will be an easy audit to see if their is any bases for the suit.

I didn’t know about chase...Wells Fargo was having issues 3 weeks ago, no surprise there.
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