Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I wonder if Jay has any pull on who his QB is, I mean this guy has not had much help from the fucking F/O. Let Kirk walk, get Alex who really never fit the system Jay loves to run. Now you go out and trade for a career back-up who had a miracle 2017 season that really was just an Avg year for 90% of the QB's. It seems like they really want to set Jay up for failure. Jay said he knows the urgency in finding a QB, and Bruce says "we are ok with Case and Colt"

Finlay said on today's podcast that Jay is feeling the pressure and expects him to unload this year about the player selection and acquisition dysfunction in the front office.

The gist was, if Jay is going out, he isn't going to take the blame for all the FO crap.

Finlay gave crowder as an example. He said Jay wanted to spend the money to keep him as a weapon but was over ruled by the FO.

He also mentioned a little heat with Bruce (of course), but also with Doug. Finlay said Doug is viewed as making personnel decisions without having to worry about the consequences of passing up talent.

[skinsnut]

After reading up on the draft QBs, I don't want any of the top 3 anyways. Jones from Duke would be sufficient, or that guy from wv. The other 3 are just as much a gamble at a much higher cost. I really don't know of any other qb in the entire draft that has starting potential other than these top 5

[skinsnut]

I also hear Josh Rosen sucks, why else would a losing team that traded up for him give up on him, when his cap is still low after only 10 months this screams to me "bad hire" I don't buy this he would be a top choice stuff. If he was, people would easily give up a high first, especially considering he's a starting nfl qb. Something doesn't add up. Tired of adopting other teams problems and also paying for it financially. I could be wrong and hope I am if the skins get Rosen, but put me in the skeptical as a starter camp.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

I also hear Josh Rosen sucks, why else would a losing team that traded up for him give up on him, when his cap is still low after only 10 months this screams to me "bad hire" I don't buy this he would be a top choice stuff. If he was, people would easily give up a high first, especially considering he's a starting nfl qb. Something doesn't add up. Tired of adopting other teams problems and also paying for it financially. I could be wrong and hope I am if the skins get Rosen, but put me in the skeptical as a starter camp.

Because the team gave up on the Head Coach that drafted him.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

I also hear Josh Rosen sucks, why else would a losing team that traded up for him give up on him, when his cap is still low after only 10 months this screams to me "bad hire" I don't buy this he would be a top choice stuff. If he was, people would easily give up a high first, especially considering he's a starting nfl qb. Something doesn't add up. Tired of adopting other teams problems and also paying for it financially. I could be wrong and hope I am if the skins get Rosen, but put me in the skeptical as a starter camp.

I watched lots of UCLA games and I was never impressed with him. He only won half his starts and seem to make mistakes at the worst possible time. He didn't have many signature wins, but he put up video game numbers against the weaker opponents. Sound familiar? On the other hand it is reported that the Patriots are interested in him and we all know that organization is among the best at evaluating talent. I would definitely trust the Patriot's opinion of Rosen over mine.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Finlay said on today's podcast that Jay is feeling the pressure and expects him to unload this year about the player selection and acquisition dysfunction in the front office.

The gist was, if Jay is going out, he isn't going to take the blame for all the FO crap.

Finlay gave crowder as an example. He said Jay wanted to spend the money to keep him as a weapon but was over ruled by the FO.

He also mentioned a little heat with Bruce (of course), but also with Doug. Finlay said Doug is viewed as making personnel decisions without having to worry about the consequences of passing up talent.

Pretty sure all that info is coming from Chris Russell so take it for what it is.

[skinsfaninok]

Rosen does not suck, he had a horrible cast around him last yr. Is he an Elite QB in the making? Nobody can say yes or no to that but to say he sucks is absurd.

[MTK]

Not sure where this logic comes from if a player is being traded he must suck.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

Not sure where this logic comes from if a player is being traded he must suck.

The Giants let Collins walk, so does he suck too?

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The Giants let Collins walk, so does he suck too?

Collins wasn't going to play for rookie contract money, different scenario than Rosen.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Collins wasn't going to play for rookie contract money, different scenario than Rosen.

But why would they keep Rosen on the bench? Might as well deal him

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by MTK

Pretty sure all that info is coming from Chris Russell so take it for what it is.

True he is saying some of it but so are others including Finlay.

And Gruden himself in the press conference at the end of the year said communication between the coaching staff and personnel dept is THE biggest thing that needs to improve.

So yea Russell is a gossip but there are a lot of other factors and comments from others that make that particular nugget believable

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[skinsfaninok]

I could see Jay being pissed, and I don't blame him. Bruce is a joke, as is Dan.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I could see Jay being pissed, and I don't blame him. Bruce is a joke, as is Dan.

as is Jay. And Doug.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by MTK

Not sure where this logic comes from if a player is being traded he must suck.

My thinking is if the Cards felt comfortable with him as their long term prospect, their approach would be to trade down and use the draft haul to build the roster.

And after getting hammered behind that line last season, he might be shell-shocked already and I'm not sure we have the right coaching staff to rebuild him.