Cousins has arrived

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by MTK

I wouldn't read too far into his comments. He knows this is the best spot for him. He doesn't seem like a chase the money kind of guy.

I would agree but I've heard ( on the radio) that he hasn't felt like he's been treated fairly by the organization. Maybe he was bitter that he had to compete for the #2 with McCoy, or maybe being benched last year, who knows. But I did hear that from one of the local sports talk stations that he's not exactly in love with team management. Perhaps that's all done with now that SM is here.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would agree but I've heard ( on the radio) that he hasn't felt like he's been treated fairly by the organization. Maybe he was bitter that he had to compete for the #2 with McCoy, or maybe being benched last year, who knows. But I did hear that from one of the local sports talk stations that he's not exactly in love with team management. Perhaps that's all done with now that SM is here.

He was #1 a fourth round pick.....and #2 a developmental project. The final three games of 2013 after Robert Griffin was shut down by Mike Shanahan he struggled....and he struggled mightily in 2014 after Griffin went down....what did he expect? There's one journeyman QB and the franchise QB ahead of him on the depth chart. And in 2015 he again struggled before he got hot....Cousins poor play determined his spot on the depth chart in 2014....

When he was named the starter for 2015 over Colt McCoy I was very surprised by that!

[NoCalHail]

Cousins is going to get paid, probably overpaid, whether it is here or somewhere else.

IMO, the only way he isn't on this team next year is one of two things.

1) Another team offers him so much money that the offer is too good to refuse and all other factors are overlooked.

2) He secretly is not interested in returning and has enough offers from other teams that he finds one he likes.


I don't think the offer from us will be bad. In fact I think if it comes down to it the panic button may be pushed and he is franchised, eliminating any question about 2016 at least, which will make all this speculation moot.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by NoCalHail

Cousins is going to get paid, probably overpaid, whether it is here or somewhere else.

IMO, the only way he isn't on this team next year is one of two things.

1) Another team offers him so much money that the offer is too good to refuse and all other factors are overlooked.

2) He secretly is not interested in returning and has enough offers from other teams that he finds one he likes.


I don't think the offer from us will be bad. In fact I think if it comes down to it the panic button may be pushed and he is franchised, eliminating any question about 2016 at least, which will make all this speculation moot.

Every quarterback in the league is overpaid (see deals for Dalton, Flacco, and Tannehill), because teams don't want to have their QBs hit the FA market.

[Buffalo Bob]

The top 9 QBs get $20 mil+ a year, if the Redskins don't give Kirk 4-5 years at $20 mil pretty sure there a half dozen+ other teams that would.
I think you could franchise him for $20 mil for a year if you want to test drive him a little longer.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Every quarterback in the league is overpaid (see deals for Dalton, Flacco, and Tannehill), because teams don't want to have their QBs hit the FA market.

It's just part of doing business in the NFL. QB's are getting big money.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It's just part of doing business in the NFL. QB's are getting big money.

This is the scary part.
It would be great to do a one year deal but that's just not how it works.
A few months ago, I said KC would get a 60+ mill contract and most people laughed. Looks like we were all wrong. He's going for 80-100Mil and that's based on what other teams are willing to pay him.

Hopefully we get a good deal that will allow us to add talent so we can hopefully be relevant for the next 10 years.

[skinsfaninok]

They will tag him . before that happens. SM isn't stupid he knows u need a QB

[MTK]

"I do feel believed in here," he said. "This organization, they put their necks on the line for me at the start of the season, and so that says a lot right there. We’ll go from there and see where things play out."

http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redski...-believed-here

[htownskinfan]

I agree with a lot of the posters on cousin's attitude doesnt reflect that he wants to be here.
I have been all in on Cousins but still have concerns.He had a terrible 4th qtr yesterday and looked rattled by the pressure.When he has a clean pocket he's very good,but pressure makes him Brian Hoyer.
My biggest concern is stat I just read today which is unbelievable and gives me pause for concern
COUSINS HAS NEVER BEATEN A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD!!
If that doesnt concern you than......

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I agree with a lot of the posters on cousin's attitude doesnt reflect that he wants to be here.

I have been all in on Cousins but still have concerns.He had a terrible 4th qtr yesterday and looked rattled by the pressure.When he has a clean pocket he's very good,but pressure makes him Brian Hoyer.

My biggest concern is stat I just read today which is unbelievable and gives me pause for concern

COUSINS HAS NEVER BEATEN A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD!!

If that doesnt concern you than......

Cousins like a lot of other really good qb's can put a team on his back and win when facing an average to below average team. Maybe with a run game and a defense he could beat the better teams too. Its a team sport and it makes perfect sense that one man might not be able to get it done alone. Hell alot of quarterbacks wouldnt be able to do half of what Cousins has done this year on this team. Next year after SM fixes the run game and the D you will see this "team" take the next step - which generally means beating the good teams. HTTR

Edit: the more i hear that stupid stat line the more aggravated i get. I mean I dont know how many tries KC has had against winning teams, but this team from 2013-14 couldn't beat freaking anyone. Ofcourse KC had a losing record against the good teams. This year we lost to some pretty damn good teams with winning records. The Pats game u can put on the damn wr's. The Panthers and Packers absolutely torched our D. Just a dumb stat. Dumb to lay it on KC. Not you personally of course but the media.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I agree with a lot of the posters on cousin's attitude doesnt reflect that he wants to be here.
I have been all in on Cousins but still have concerns.He had a terrible 4th qtr yesterday and looked rattled by the pressure.When he has a clean pocket he's very good,but pressure makes him Brian Hoyer.
My biggest concern is stat I just read today which is unbelievable and gives me pause for concern
COUSINS HAS NEVER BEATEN A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD!!
If that doesnt concern you than......

Not true at all, he was very good against the blitz this year.

Hoyer had a 15.9 QB rating on Sat... 15.9. Putting them in the same sentence is ridiculous.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by MTK

Not true at all, he was very good against the blitz this year.



Hoyer had a 15.9 QB rating on Sat... 15.9. Putting them in the same sentence is ridiculous.

Yeah you're right,I over exaggerated
But Cousins did not play well after the td drive in 3rd and the never beating a team with a winning record was surprising and concerning.
I know we have no choice now but to sign him and I want us to,but I do have fears that he will be a 1 hit wonder like RG3.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Yeah you're right,I over exaggerated
But Cousins did not play well after the td drive in 3rd and the never beating a team with a winning record was surprising and concerning.
I know we have no choice now but to sign him and I want us to,but I do have fears that he will be a 1 hit wonder like RG3.

Stop talking like that it's no longer allowed here.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Yeah you're right,I over exaggerated
But Cousins did not play well after the td drive in 3rd and the never beating a team with a winning record was surprising and concerning.
I know we have no choice now but to sign him and I want us to,but I do have fears that he will be a 1 hit wonder like RG3.

RG3 was a totally different situation, his success was based on the read option and his freakish athleticism. Both of those are gone now.

Kirk doesn't need gimmicks or 4.3 speed.