All things Middle East related

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I wouldn't be surprised if those nuts are funded and organized by people within our own government. It keeps perpetual war going so we can continue feeding billions of dollars to the war machine. Let's thank Bush for this complete disaster in Iraq. Hope that douche bag is happy.

Yeah, sometimes its better to have ironclad dictators like Assad and Sadam in power because of their ability to control their insane extreme elements within the culture. Problem with Sadam is he liked to destablize the region by his war machine, once against iran and the other against kuwait.

The middle east is the most intriguing place on the map with all their issues. The big question is why doesnt that area come together to squash these threats?

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I wouldn't be surprised if those nuts are funded and organized by people within our own government. It keeps perpetual war going so we can continue feeding billions of dollars to the war machine. Let's thank Bush for this complete disaster in Iraq. Hope that douche bag is happy.

4 months ago I would have echoed your comments .... but after seeing what putin's mind state in russia is, iran's nuclear ambitions and china's claiming of territories and provocation ....

i now see why we spend 5% of GDP on defense.

it quite literally is the only thing keeping russia, china and iran in check.

those 3 are in bed together and it scares the hell out of me.

the only reason russia and china dont do more is bc their militaries have not caught up to ours.

world war is blowing in the winds. at some point in our lifetime its going to happen.

thankfully japan and australia are boosting their military. israel is always down to fight. canada needs to boost its military bc all of their artic land will be poached by russia and china in the search for oil.

the problem is all these weak EU nations relying on us to bully the bullies so they can spend their money else where instead of on defense.

at some point in our lives, none of us will be paying attention to football. there wont even be football. we live such a cush and bubbled life in the US.

moving away from oil is our only hope. unfortunately oil bought our politicians.

[tshile]

I've been arguing with my republican friends about the main stream media stuff for the last few years. But watching the Sunday morning shows all two-step around the fact that we are arming ISIS in Syria and debating fighting them in Iraq is painful.

Rand Paul made mention of it and Candy Crowley just dodged the hell out of it.

[tshile]

It's also painful to watch Dianne Feinstein say they were surprised a third of Iraq could be taken so quickly. Republicans have been warning about the danger of time-tabled withdrawal from the middle east and this result for years. This is not a surprise.

I am all for getting out of there but I certainly recognized the potential of this happening.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

and the Obama Admin stands by and watches this happen

Purged by ISIS, Iraq's Christians appeal to world for help | Fox News

.....yet sends millions to organizations in Palestine that have rockets in their facilities.

[Chico23231]

ISIS beheading U.S. journalist James Foley, posts video - CNN.com

I think Im just beginning to hate everything "Middle East" and just say eff it and nuke all these countries

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

ISIS beheading U.S. journalist James Foley, posts video - CNN.com

I think Im just beginning to hate everything "Middle East" and just say eff it and nuke all these countries

I hope to goodness that the US wipes the floor with ISIS. As this point, I'm willing to go balls deep into Iraq (again) to clean house of these morons. While we are at it, I say we go ahead and end the source of their funding. /looks at Saudi Arabia

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I hope to goodness that the US wipes the floor with ISIS. As this point, I'm willing to go balls deep into Iraq (again) to clean house of these morons. While we are at it, I say we go ahead and end the source of their funding. /looks at Saudi Arabia

you personally or do you mean sending other people's kids?

and it's not just saudi arabia, there's a lot of money flowing from all over the region through a million different means to islamic fighters. and a lot of US money also ends up getting routed to people actively looking to fight us too.

perpetual war and an endless money pit... success?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by That Guy

you personally or do you mean sending other people's kids?

The adults that VOLUNTEERED for military service. The military isn't a social program, it's a fighting force.

So your stance is to stand back and watch tens of thousands get slaughtered/beheaded/crucified when we have the capability to stop it? If that's your stance it's disgusting.

How would you feel if IS was running rampant through NoVA and the only people that could stop them decided it "wasn't worth it" to end mass genocide.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

The adults that VOLUNTEERED for military service. The military isn't a social program, it's a fighting force.

So your stance is to stand back and watch tens of thousands get slaughtered/beheaded/crucified when we have the capability to stop it? If that's your stance it's disgusting.

How would you feel if IS was running rampant through NoVA and the only people that could stop them decided it "wasn't worth it" to end mass genocide.

then why aren't you in africa right now? or syria? or the ukraine? or dealing with the hidden protests in saudi arabia?

if we want to stop all the bad situations and genocides in the world, we need to adds millions of soldiers and trillions to the budget. there's already enough people talking a big game, what's your magic plan for achieving it? reinstating the draft? 80% tax rates? where's your outrage about the world's failure to contain ebola or aids or the genocide in sudan? we could stop that too, but i guess when it's happening in africa it doesn't count. you're lack of outrage makes me sick.

and the next time ISIS is rampaging down K street, please be sure to let me know.

[CRedskinsRule]

You just get the feeling that sooner later someone is going to do something stupider than stupid. It just reminds me of pre WWI Europe.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

You just get the feeling that sooner later someone is going to do something stupider than stupid. It just reminds me of pre WWI Europe.

The biggest problem I have is why arent other countries seeing this huge problem, amassing an army and doing something about these cray cray isis cats. Do they support it?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

The biggest problem I have is why arent other countries seeing this huge problem, amassing an army and doing something about these cray cray isis cats. Do they support it?

Other countries like who? Do we want Iran to go deep into Iraq and basically create a land bridge to Syria? Syria is in it's own quandary and some propagandists argue the US sponsored ISiS in Syria and now has lost control. Given our track record in the middle east I am not sure that gets completely discounted. Jordan Saudi Arabia and the rest of the moderate Middle East nations have enough of an issue with the threat against their homelands why are they going to risk angering significant groups within their boundaries for a bunch of meaningless others(my belief in how most see the Kurds and other minorities most at risk from ISIS.

I guess bottomline the techniques and policies of ISIS may be outrageous here in the US, but it isn't completely out of line with the rulers of most local nations that we would normally encourage to intervene.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

and some propagandists argue the US sponsored ISiS in Syria and now has lost control.

It wouldn't be the first time. We trained Al Qaeda from it's inception and lost control of that organization.


Come to think of it, maybe we haven't lost control, but they are doing exactly what our CIA wants them to do. Goes back to what I said here:

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I wouldn't be surprised if those nuts are funded and organized by people within our own government. It keeps perpetual war going so we can continue feeding billions of dollars to the war machine. Let's thank Bush for this complete disaster in Iraq. Hope that douche bag is happy.

[NC_Skins]

These are some brave journalists. That much is for certain. Hell of a documentary on ISIS and well worth the time. This isn't some small organization now.