Gun Control Thread- Should we?

MTK · 12-23-2012, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

http://www.thewarpath.net/debating-w...tml#post977247

I posted this a few pages ago and people simply ignored it. You want to stop mass murderers? Stop giving them their fame and glory. The media and our culture are solely responsible for these types of attacks continuing. Guess what? They are going to continue to happen and it's not be because guns are available. It's going to be because these people have psychiatric problems and want to live in infamy. They are going to continue to strike places that that offer no resistance. They are going to continue to strike people that are innocent. They are going to continue committing suicide once they are being closed in on.

This quote from the NRA's top lobbyist is spot on.

While I'm not really "pro" NRA or even a member of theirs, what he said is 100% accurate.

Maybe instead of banning or regulating guns, we start regulating media and how they report these type of events.

I think that's over stating things just a bit. Take away the media and there's still going to be murder.

The media is part of the problem for sure, but I'd hesitate to claim that any one issue whether it be guns, media, or lack of quality mental health care is the sole source.

I don't buy into the NRA agenda, they're just passing the buck just like everyone else.

punch it in · 12-21-2012, 12:41 PM

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But the next mass killer is sitting there looking at the fame this guy is getting and knows he/she will get the same fame.

Thats why the next one that doesnt off himself should be tortured on television for the world to see in the most terrible way possible for as long as possible.
I realize that will never happen, but ill be damned if i dont think about it.

skinsguy · 12-21-2012, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

Thats why the next one that doesnt off himself should be tortured on television for the world to see in the most terrible way possible for as long as possible.
I realize that will never happen, but ill be damned if i dont think about it.

I hate to say it, but that would probably put them in a frame of mind that they're some type of messiah.

punch it in · 12-21-2012, 01:14 PM

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I hate to say it, but that would probably put them in a frame of mind that they're some type of messiah.

I think that if your that far gone you are going to do it anyway. For the ones that just want the fame and dont care about life in prison or being executed they might think twice. Anyway its just a dumb thought that makes me feel good and obviously would never happen.

punch it in · 12-21-2012, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Everyday, a average of 30 people die in the US that involve a alcohol impaired driver.

In 2010, 211 children were killed by alcohol impaired driver.

So why isn't the media or our politicians calling for stricter regulation on alcohol? Why isn't this a bigger focus when it consumes more lives? Why is one deemed such a problem with our county while the other one is glorified and celebrated?

Media. That's why. You control the media, you control the message, and ultimately you control the people. It really is that simple.

Drunk driving isnt exactly a non-issue NC? Not sure what you mean by glorified and celebrated?
Edit: they could make the legal bac ridiculously low but that isnt going to matter. People will still drink and drive.

NC_Skins · 12-21-2012, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

Drunk driving isnt exactly a non-issue NC? Not sure what you mean by glorified and celebrated?
Edit: they could make the legal bac ridiculously low but that isnt going to matter. People will still drink and drive.

Obviously it isn't a issue. See it in the news like you do the gun control issue? Nope. Do you see the media swarming in on communities and families that fall victim to drunk drivers? Nope.

So why is it the media makes gun violence a issue, but not alcohol related deaths? Which do you think is a bigger issue? 75,000 related alcohol deaths or 15,000 gun related?

Media has a agenda. That agenda is the push the buttons of people's fear and emotions so they can prosper.

KLHJ2 · 12-22-2012, 12:26 AM

Uhm, it's ok to have a gun. It's OK to drink alcohol.

If you maintain your gun responsibly then innocent people should not get hurt. If you drink responsibly then people should not get hurt.

The reality is that mankind cannot expect everyone to do both responsibly. Therefore, all of the problems associated with these devices will continue.

When there was a prohibition of alcohol people used guns to defend their use of alcohol. If you prohibit guns, people will consume alcohol and defend their right to bear arms.

There is no real solution. It is like playing tic-tac-toe. Now who is up for war games?

punch it in · 12-22-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Obviously it isn't a issue. See it in the news like you do the gun control issue? Nope. Do you see the media swarming in on communities and families that fall victim to drunk drivers? Nope.

So why is it the media makes gun violence a issue, but not alcohol related deaths? Which do you think is a bigger issue? 75,000 related alcohol deaths or 15,000 gun related?

Media has a agenda. That agenda is the push the buttons of people's fear and emotions so they can prosper.

I think unfortunately that drunk driving is just so widespread that its not a big story. School shootings are not that widespread so they are a big story. Dont see any agenda other than to get people to watch their channels or buy their papers. If tonite there is a drunk driving accident and a mass shooting in your town, which is going to draw your attention?

RedskinRat · 12-22-2012, 01:58 PM

This article nails it:

Larry Correia - Gun Control

cpayne5 · 12-22-2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

This article nails it:

Larry Correia - Gun Control

Checkmate. Long read, but worth it.

I hope the people who need to read it will, but I'm not overly optimistic...

Giantone · 12-23-2012, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

This article nails it:

Larry Correia - Gun Control

Does'nt nail a thing,this is the same old gun culture BS that the NRA puts out everytime there is a shooting.

Check this out,this nails it...as you say.

Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence : Home

Giantone · 12-23-2012, 03:17 AM

Gun-control advocates blast NRA statement

Gun-control advocates reacted with incredulity at the statements by Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, at his Friday press conference. LaPierre called for armed guards in every school in the nation and blamed violent media, video games, films and music videos, not guns, for violence in society.
"It was absolutely outrageous,' said Shannon Watts, who founded One Million Moms for Gun Control just five days ago. "They are about to see a tsunami of 84 million angry moms coming out at them. Angry moms like they have never seen before. We are going to do for gun control what Mothers Against Drunk Driving did for drunk drivers."
The Zionsville, Ind. stay-at-home mother of five was so angry and frustrated after the Newtown shootings that she started a Facebook page and website. Her group now has 8,000 members and 50 chapters. "Every day we get a request for 20 new chapters," she said.
Congress has been running scared of the NRA, "but the NRA only has 4 million members, she said. "Ask them in four weeks who they're more scared of, the NRA or a mom? It's going to be the mom."
"We're seeing ridiculous laws that are written to allow guns in our churches and our schools. It's time for the 84 million mothers in American to say enough," she said. She doesn't want to ban guns. "We understand about the Second Amendment, but it was written in 1791, before AK47s." America needs common sense, she said. "I can't buy an unlimited amount of fertilizer or Sudafed, but I can buy unlimited ammunition. Really?"

......it's the NRA's "gun culture" campaign to sell guns.I'm sure Mrs Lanza knew what she was doing with guns just like the pro guns posters here do,or at least thought she did,even after she gave her son enough money to cover himself in Kevlar from head to toe,yup she knew becuase she did what the NRA told her to,right up till her son killed her.

firstdown · 12-24-2012, 09:29 AM

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