Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?

[Chico23231]

We need someone from the outside who’s had a different experience, winning and teambuilding in a successful org.

No ex redskins and no internal candidates for GM.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

We need someone from the outside who’s had a different experience, winning and teambuilding in a successful org.

No ex redskins and no internal candidates for GM.

You guys have had some good coach's ,honest question, what do you think the problem is?

[irish]

Originally Posted by Giantone

You guys have had some good coach's ,honest question, what do you think the problem is?

The owner is the problem. You are right, this organization has had some good coaches but the owner wont let the coaches and football people do what they do best without meddling and undercutting them. It started with firing a proven coach in Marty Schottenheimer after one season to hire the flavor of the day, the Ol Ball Coach and has continued from there.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

We need someone from the outside who’s had a different experience, winning and teambuilding in a successful org.

No ex redskins and no internal candidates for GM.

I would like to say that would work but we saw what happened with Shanny.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

First off Bruce Allen is worthlessness POS, Kyle Smith has done a fine job picking players the last 2 years. Mayhew would take over Allen’s role which oversees operations and would know Kyle is doing a fine job and would provide his input. Doesn’t mean what happened in Detroit was all his fault. Belichick was a failure in Cleveland, what happened after that? Mayhem is smart and well respected executive.

Which players has Kyle Smith personally picked over the last two years?

Last I heard picking players was a group effort, with Allen, Smith, Doug Williams, and Gruden all having input (up until this year when popular opinion is that Gruden was ousted from the group).

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by mooby

Which players has Kyle Smith personally picked over the last two years?

Last I heard picking players was a group effort, with Allen, Smith, Doug Williams, and Gruden all having input (up until this year when popular opinion is that Gruden was ousted from the group).

https://mobile.twitter.com/john_keim...52815898955776

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Look who created the draft board

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

https://mobile.twitter.com/john_keim...52815898955776

https://mobile.twitter.com/john_keim...64957389873153

Look who created the draft board

You're not showing me anything I haven't already seen. I'm already on the record as being a Kyle Smith fan. Just asking you where you draw the line between giving Kyle Smith all the credit for this draft class and giving the other major-decision makers credit too?

My entire point in this convo is you seem determined to give Mayhew the credit for John Lynch's success and the success SF has had building a team. I'm not sold on Mayhew leading a team just because of that. He's already tried to lead a dogshit franchise out of the dumpster and failed. We're not San Fran, we don't build teams the right way, and we've seen many a successful man come to this organization and have his name tarnished by the time he leaves. I don't think Mayhew is the guy that's going to buck that trend.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by mooby

You're not showing me anything I haven't already seen. I'm already on the record as being a Kyle Smith fan. Just asking you where you draw the line between giving Kyle Smith all the credit for this draft class and giving the other major-decision makers credit too?



My entire point in this convo is you seem determined to give Mayhew the credit for John Lynch's success and the success SF has had building a team. I'm not sold on Mayhew leading a team just because of that. He's already tried to lead a dogshit franchise out of the dumpster and failed. We're not San Fran, we don't build teams the right way, and we've seen many a successful man come to this organization and have his name tarnished by the time he leaves. I don't think Mayhew is the guy that's going to buck that trend.

Moo by, at the very least, Kyle Smith was the leader of the draft “selection committee”. He was the main source of player names. The Redskins have had two pretty successful drafts under that leadership in the last two years. Reward that success with a move up. I ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEE he is better than that numbnut Bruce Allen.

With the current owner Kyle Smith could get more autonomy than ever before, because Snyder knows him. I see no GM candidates of note coming here from the outside with current chaos and dysfunction. Someone of Smith’s talent could stop a lot of the buffoonery caused by BA’s incompetence.


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[mooby]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Moo by, at the very least, Kyle Smith was the leader of the draft “selection committee”. He was the main source of player names. The Redskins have had two pretty successful drafts under that leadership in the last two years. Reward that success with a move up. I ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEE he is better than that numbnut Bruce Allen.

With the current owner Kyle Smith could get more autonomy than ever before, because Snyder knows him. I see no GM candidates of note coming here from the outside with current chaos and dysfunction. Someone of Smith’s talent could stop a lot of the buffoonery caused by BA’s incompetence.


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That's a low bar to set.

I like Kyle Smith too Warthog, my only concern with him is his mind potentially being corrupted by working in the suck with Bruce Allen. God forbid he looks at how Bruce Allen operates and thinks he's a good leader to model after.

[skinsfaninok]

U guys still think Tomlin is overrated?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

U guys still think Tomlin is overrated?

Well i do think the Rams stink.

[punch it in]

Steelers will finish 9-7. Lose to the good teams and beat the bad ones but they got no quarterback so....

[Warthog]

The only way a talented, NFL-proven, HC comes here is if he gets far more power and autonomy than had been offered before. Unless this new HC is coming here JUST for the $$$MONEY, only, he must know the history and what the Snyder/Allen oversight has cost every single prior coach before him.

That may be the best course of action, getting a talented, NFL OC or DC , who INSISTS on massive autonomy to include removing Bruce Allen from his GM position and pushing Snyder out of his manipulations. Doubtful but we can still hope!

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[punch it in]

I’m just going to leave this here....

[Warthog]

It’s all up to Snyder: dump his buddy Bruce Allen and hire from the NFL talent pool of hot OC or DC’s.

OR hire from within the Redskins organization or hire some bizzaro-choice (e.g., like Jim Zorn - a QB coach) from way outside the decent choices so that he and BA can continue to play around and meddle while the team tanks.


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