2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

FD,
This has been posted several times. Keep up please.


Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama? - Forbes


NEXT.

Of course this "shell game" post comes from an "unbiased" source......the writer's tagline: Rick Ungar, writing from the left on politics and policy.

How about some real perspective on the Obama Admin and lefties shell game.

Setting Obama's "Great Fiscal Restraint Record" Straight

and before you simply discount the link beause it's from Heritage....read and understand the numbers. We're talking real dollars, not percentage increases....the Obama Admin is playing a semantics and shell game here, nothing more. Bottom line, Obama has done nothing to address the entitlement tsunami that is coming over the next decade and has racked up $5T + of REAL DOLLARS in National Debt in 3 years.

NEXT.

[drew54]

In case you are unaware of this story.

Does the U.S. government have the right to kill its own citizens? - The Globe and Mail

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by drew54

In case you are unaware of this story.

Does the U.S. government have the right to kill its own citizens? - The Globe and Mail

In my opinion yes , and in the example in the link remember it wasn't the US that put the child there it was his "radical" father.If any of you remember on 9/11 the AirForce was order to shoot down any planes in open US air space after a while and I agreed with that at the time so I won't throw this on Bush or Obama.

[drew54]

This is what we have become. I say you are a tax cheat, so it must be so. I say you are not an American citizen so it must be so. Mean while congress isnt doing shit and we are fighting over bullshit.

Vote for neither. Vote for independents. Find candidates that are not bought and paid for.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by drew54

This is what we have become. I say you are a tax cheat, so it must be so. I say you are not an American citizen so it must be so. Mean while congress isnt doing shit and we are fighting over bullshit.

Vote for neither. Vote for independents. Find candidates that are not bought and paid for.

If one I agreed with ran I be happy to vote for them. Tea Party is still pretty much on the state level.

[drew54]

Buddy Roemer was never given a chance to even debate. Gary Johnson was allowed to attend one debate. They were not crazy enough to be selected for the Republican Party sideshow that went on this year.

It seems Gary Johnson is now on the Libertarian Party ticket, and if he could poll above 15% he can attend the debates. He will move the discussion away from the BS talking points, and I for one would love to see that.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by drew54

It seems Gary Johnson is now on the Libertarian Party ticket, and if he could poll above 15% he can attend the debates. He will move the discussion away from the BS talking points, and I for one would love to see that.

This. So much this. Regardless of where Gary Johnson stands, or how he would split votes, we need campaigns with more than two candidates. Mudlslinging seems to work when it's just one candidate and an opponent. I think candidates would be less likely to do that, and talking real issues instead, when there's a third candidate that would only be helped by their opponents sniping each other.

[mlmpetert]

First this:
The Obama event registry — Blog — Barack Obama


Then this:
President Obama Donates - YouTube


Now this:
Obama birthday card | TheBlaze.com


At what point does it become just good old fashion pandering?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

First this:
The Obama event registry — Blog — Barack Obama


Then this:
President Obama Donates - YouTube


Now this:
Obama birthday card | TheBlaze.com


At what point does it become just good old fashion pandering?

I'd much rather him pander than have three billionaires (Shelly Adelson, Foster Friess, Koch brothers) bankroll his campaign and dictate policy.

If a guy cuts a $10 million check to your campaign, the next logical question is what does he want in return.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'd much rather him pander than have three billionaires (Shelly Adelson, Foster Friess, Koch brothers) bankroll his campaign and dictate policy.

If a guy cuts a $10 million check to your campaign, the next logical question is what does he want in return.

And unions don't do the same thing?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'd much rather him pander than have three billionaires (Shelly Adelson, Foster Friess, Koch brothers) bankroll his campaign and dictate policy.

If a guy cuts a $10 million check to your campaign, the next logical question is what does he want in return.

A Firefighter, a Postal Worker, a Veteran, and an...

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by drew54

Buddy Roemer was never given a chance to even debate. Gary Johnson was allowed to attend one debate. They were not crazy enough to be selected for the Republican Party sideshow that went on this year.

It seems Gary Johnson is now on the Libertarian Party ticket, and if he could poll above 15% he can attend the debates. He will move the discussion away from the BS talking points, and I for one would love to see that.

Smart man.




Listen to this Fox News guy trying to spew vile and drum up fear.(in regards to Iran)

[firstdown]

He has added 5 million jobs? So how is unemployment at 8.4%. I think you left off the 8 million he has lost. This chart deos not even include the number of new federal employees its going to need to inforce Obama Care.

This chart shows something a little different.

[12thMan]

Yep, the exact number is closer 4.6 million. Come November the number should, hopefully, be at 5 million. 29 consecutive months we've had private sector jobs. #fact

I like how you cite Heritage Foundation as your source about Obamacare. Cute.

[MTK]

Far left? I wish.