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Old 03-13-2012, 08:59 PM   #226
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re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan

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Did some quick calculations on the recent signings. Here are the cap hits I've come up with so far given the info out there (000s):

Carriker
2012: $2,750
2013: $4,750
2014: $5,750
2015: $6,750
TOTAL: $20,000

Garcon
2012: $7,300
2013: $7,300
2014: $8,300
2015: $9,300
2016: $10,300
TOTAL: $42,500

Morgan
2012: $2,200
2013: $2,300
2014: $2,500
2015: $2,500
2016: $2,500
TOTAL: $12,000
Garcon's getting 13.5 in year one, 7.25 in year two, and 7.25 in year 3...unconfirmed
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Old 03-13-2012, 08:59 PM   #227
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yea i think safety and RT are our main needs now, for safety i like reggie nelson or dwight lowrey
Dwights the real deal. Don't think we have interest in him..

I heard we have interest in Jim Leonard.
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:00 PM   #228
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i dont minde cutting hall but if we do who in gods name is our starting corner along with wilson? i would love carr but i dont think we have enough money
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:01 PM   #229
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Garcon's getting 13.5 in year one, 7.25 in year two, and 7.25 in year 3...unconfirmed
How is that possible with our cap reduction? Are we just saying '**** it, we'll do what we want' to Goodell?
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:02 PM   #230
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i dont minde cutting hall but if we do who in gods name is our starting corner along with wilson? i would love carr but i dont think we have enough money
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:02 PM   #231
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a point someone made earlier is still sticking with me.

Marques Colston signed a smaller deal to stay in New Orleans, and was considered the best or second best WR on the market. Pierre was the third best and got a bigger offer. Thats either bad negotiating by us or Marques knows he's not that good without brees. somethings off here..
a) not everyone considered Garcon as third best
b) Colston took the "home-town" discount. Garcon preferred market competition and uprooting his family
c) although Garcon got more, the two deals are pretty similar
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:03 PM   #232
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I'm also someone puzzled with the signing of these 3 receivers. None are that special and just more of what they usually get at WR... small receivers who can't break away from the defensive backs covering them. At least all 3 of these guys are young. But where is the 6-3, 220 WR that can be the go-to person when you need a first down... maybe Hankerson if he stops dropping passes.

I sure hope to hear of some great OL and DL FA picks here pretty soon... fingers crossed.
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a) not everyone considered Garcon as third best
b) Colston took the "home-town" discount. Garcon preferred market competition and uprooting his family
c) although Garcon got more, the two deals are pretty similar
Also skins had to beat Indys offer. Colston had no other offer to beat.
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:04 PM   #234
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How is that possible with our cap reduction? Are we just saying '**** it, we'll do what we want' to Goodell?
Yes I believe we are, although it's directed more towards owners than it is Goodell. And I personally support this strategy.
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So is Eddie Royal done?
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:05 PM   #236
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Ya seems like overkill. Doesn't bode well for my boy Santana.

My guess is they cut Gaffney soon, Moss after June 1st, or both.
Man, I hope not.
Seems like they got quantity more then quality.
There are only a finite number of targets.
But, we have far more WRs then possible targets or catch opportunities.

The funny thing (or not so funny if they cut Gaffney and/or Moss) is that using advanced metrics from Football Outsiders Gaffney was ranked higher in DYAR/DVOA then Garcon whose DYAR/DVOA were equal to Tana playing through a broken hand.
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:06 PM   #237
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Who are we looking at for the DEFENSE?

Right now I see our draft looking like Defense, a RB, an OL player, and of course Mr. RGIII.

Now I am excited about the RGIII deal!
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:07 PM   #238
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Man, I hope not.
Seems like they got quantity more then quality.
There are only a finite number of targets.
But, we have far more WRs then possible targets or catch opportunities.

The funny thing (or not so funny if they cut Gaffney and/or Moss) is that using advanced metrics from Football Outsiders Gaffney was ranked higher in DYAR/DVOA then Garcon whose DYAR/DVOA were equal to Tana playing through a broken hand.
One could argue that Gaffney and Moss have their best football behind them while Garcon likely has his best yet to come.
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:07 PM   #239
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Anyone notice that we gave Garcon more than Colston got? Or that Josh Morgan is getting 6 mil a year? Any news on how much Royal is getting? Shit I wish we got Winston instead of Morgan...
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Has the draft pick trade with the Rams been approved yet.


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