Sell OUR Team Danny Boy - DC Metro Bus Ads

[12thMan]

I think sell the team sends the message more clearly. I don't think this is about getting Snyder to literally sell the team, as much as airing out a real sentiment that exists amongst the fans.

This message communicates more bluntly the collective and utter disgust with the direction of this franchise under Snyder's ownership. What other way to cut to the chase about how you feel about Snyder?

So while I'm neither pro or con this project, I think sell the team conveys the real message.

[KLHJ2]

Everybody speaks in subtext these days.

Hey 12th...I love you man, and I say that because the message communicates more bluntly the collective and utter appreciation I have for your thoughtfull posts. What other way to cut to the chase about the way that I feel about your contributions to this forum.

Don't feel left out Hooskins...I love you too.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I think they're arguing what will happen if they get the ads on the buses and then Dan continues to run the team into the ground/doesn't end up changing or doing anything differently.

My counter argument to that would be... Don't donate then. Everyone knows the risks of putting their money towards the cause. If you don't believe in it, keep your money.

not really my argument DR. I argue that the continued and exaggerated alienation of DS by the fan base only leads in one direction, and that is the team moving. Yes DS' moves are moronic, imbecilic etc. but he has final say and that isn't changing. So the most likely result of any anti-DS groundswell is the loss of the very thing all of us want to succeed.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Angry

Everybody speaks in subtext these days.

Hey 12th...I love you man, and I say that because the message communicates more bluntly the collective and utter appreciation I have for your thoughtfull posts. What other way to cut to the chase about the way that I feel about your contributions to this forum.

Don't feel left out Hooskins...I love you too.

LOL! haha...what? Are you drunk, dude?

Man, don't use the L word unless we're in the drunk thread

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

LOL! haha...what? Are you drunk, dude?

Man, don't use the L word unless we're in the drunk thread

Not even close. I am in the middle of interviewing for an open position and until I get somebody hired I have to pull some additional hours. So the short answer is that, I am still at work.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

not really my argument DR. I argue that the continued and exaggerated alienation of DS by the fan base only leads in one direction, and that is the team moving. Yes DS' moves are moronic, imbecilic etc. but he has final say and that isn't changing. So the most likely result of any anti-DS groundswell is the loss of the very thing all of us want to succeed.

I think you are correct. When fans demand that the team be sold, likely DS will just be driven more deeply into a bunker mentality. And, from this position, he is far more likely to move the team than to sell it.

I'm sorry but I think the "Sell our team" campaign is, in the long term, counterproductive and perhaps disastrous.

"Change the team" is a much better message and is one that I would support.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I think sell the team sends the message more clearly. I don't think this is about getting Snyder to literally sell the team, as much as airing out a real sentiment that exists amongst the fans.

This message communicates more bluntly the collective and utter disgust with the direction of this franchise under Snyder's ownership. What other way to cut to the chase about how you feel about Snyder?

So while I'm neither pro or con this project, I think sell the team conveys the real message.

Exactly the way we feel. Thanks for the articulation!

[12thMan]

Let me also say that Snyder is plenty embarrassed by what's going on right now. The latest move banning signs inside the stadium has already backfired and has had unintended consequences. Every media outlet has picked up this story and is running with it non stop, reinforcing the perception that Snyder is all about Snyder.

The thing is this ain't Detroit or Cleveland folks. People expect those teams to be bad and won't give a second thought about going to the playoffs better yet the Super Bowl. The Redskins, on the other hand, are a proud franchise with very loyal and proud fans, and a very proud city. We expect to win here. And after we're done winning, we hoist up our heroes and put them in the Hall of Fame. This is no ordinary decline by just another sports franchise.

But what adds insult to injury, at least in the minds of the fans, is that those franchises are bad, in part, because they don't live in markets where NFL franchises can thrive long term. Snyder has spent millions upon millions and has fielded a very mediocre product for ten years. It's not that the Redskins are bad, we're expensively bad!

[Save our Redskins]

Please visit "Save our Redskins (Fire Vinny)" on Facebook and become a fan! Join the movement to change the way OUR team is run!

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Save our Redskins

Please visit "Save our Redskins (Fire Vinny)" on Facebook and become a fan! Join the movement to change the way OUR team is run!

Action > Talk...

Doing any little bit helps, I just joined!

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Action > Talk...

honestly kinda gay, sorry, but on another not we are at $1350 right now hopefully over 20% tomorrow, if you haven't checked it out yet do yourself a favor

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

again obviously he isn't goin to sell the team anytime soon, but maybe if this gets big enough and happens somthing might finally click in his head and say wow i guess the fans really do hate me and change his ways. and it isn't just throwing money away and you will never get it back if you took the time to visit the website instead of iggnorantly bashing it you would realize that if we do not reach our goal everyone gets there money back. and he does only own 51 % and some of the minortiy owners could buy him out if it comes to a point of public emmbarassment, as profitable as the redskins are i'm pretty sure fed ex is worth just a little bit more

Since when does he own only 51%

He shouldn't make decisions based on what fans think. A good owner acts in the best interest of the team, in spite of what the fans want. Some of the brightest minds out there and complete morons when it comes to their fanhood.

[SkinFanatic]

First of all, the majority ownership thing is not gonna happen. The minority owners are made up of his sister and his mother among others. I also believe that a greater part reverted to him when one of the original group, Fred Drasner, was bought out. And he'll never move the team. He's a lofelong DC guy and the league makes it too difficult anyway (I wonder how the other owners would feel about a request to move due to being run out of town by the fans, LOL).
I also think the whole "Sell Our Team" theme is sending the right message. It may or may not get off the ground, but I guarantee you, DS is hearing every post of every thread (because he's compulsive like that). The guy has like 5 TVs over his desk tuned into all the sports networks. It definitely drives home the fact that he may own the franchise but it's "our" team. I'm totally sold that he is embarassed and gnashing his teeth about the whole situation and he has heads spinning 24/7 at Redskin Park trying to stop the hemorrhaging. So keep the pressure on.

[gibbsisgod]

I think a better way (and it may have already been mentioned) is to stop supporting the companies that sponsor the Redskins. Instead of Papa Johns or Popeyes chicken got to Jose's Chicken hut and Crazy Pete's Pizzaria....or whatever.

You have to make sure to let the company know the reason for you taking your buisness elsewhere. Be sure to specify that when they no longer have a buisness relationship with Washington, and only then will you patronize there buisness again.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by SkinFanatic

And he'll never move the team. He's a lofelong DC guy and the league makes it too difficult anyway (I wonder how the other owners would feel about a request to move due to being run out of town by the fans, LOL).

Exactly. I think the odds that Snyder moves the team are about as good as the odds of him selling it.