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[punch it in]

Preach SS…. Nothing but knowledge and fact.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Preach SS…. Nothing but knowledge and fact.

Not quite see my response.

[Giantone]

How many guys here have had an abortion, asking for a friend.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Giantone

How many guys here have had an abortion, asking for a friend.

Yeah i posted that at like 9 am. Yet here i am.

Completely off topic but is Rave the only female on this site? It would be really weird if one if you was a female and I just didn’t realize it. I have these ideas in my head about what you all look like, and act like outside this forum. Man there are some people that must think of some Jersey douchebag when they imagine me. LOL. That would be a good thread.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Yeah i posted that at like 9 am. Yet here i am.

Completely off topic but is Rave the only female on this site? It would be really weird if one if you was a female and I just didn’t realize it. I have these ideas in my head about what you all look like, and act like outside this forum. Man there are some people that must think of some Jersey douchebag when they imagine me. LOL. That would be a good thread.

My enduring picture of you is a guy giving the finger to granny the cowboy fan. I am not even sure that's the right story but it's how I see you.

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[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Yeah i posted that at like 9 am. Yet here i am.

Completely off topic but is Rave the only female on this site? It would be really weird if one if you was a female and I just didn’t realize it. I have these ideas in my head about what you all look like, and act like outside this forum. Man there are some people that must think of some Jersey douchebag when they imagine me. LOL. That would be a good thread.

This is my mental image of ya'll

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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Not quite see my response.

I did. On the whole Europe is still better than Mississippi.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I did. On the whole Europe is still better than Mississippi.

Something we can agree on - they are better and if Mississippi's law isn't upheld they will return to being enormously better.

BTW speaking of half truths the Politifact is being extremely deceptive thru omission. Take this for example

" Reeves relied on one analysis, but that study made no allowances for broad exceptions in countries’ laws that could extend the cutoff point for a legal abortion well past the 15-week mark."

What Politifact fails to mention is that the longest extension they are alluding to takes it to 24 weeks (the UK) with most others ranging from 16-22 weeks. And again that is with extenuating circumstances. You know the ones that don't even begin to be considered in the US until 24 weeks.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Something we can agree on - they are better and if Mississippi's law isn't upheld they will return to being enormously better.

BTW speaking of half truths the Politifact is being extremely deceptive thru omission. Take this for example

" Reeves relied on one analysis, but that study made no allowances for broad exceptions in countries’ laws that could extend the cutoff point for a legal abortion well past the 15-week mark."

What Politifact fails to mention is that the longest extension they are alluding to takes it to 24 weeks (the UK) with most others ranging from 16-22 weeks. And again that is with extenuating circumstances. You know the ones that don't even begin to be considered in the US until 24 weeks.

I'm sorry, what percentage of American abortions are performed in the third trimester due to non-medical reasons (i.e. the mother doesn't want the baby)?

[SunnySide]

In general, infants that are born very early are not considered to be viable until after 24 weeks gestation. This means that if you give birth to an infant before they are 24 weeks old, their chance of surviving is usually less than 50 percent.

Some infants are born before 24 weeks gestation and do survive. But these infants have a very high chance of severe long-term health problems. About 40 percent of these preemies will suffer long-term health complications because they were born prematurely.

https://healthcare.utah.edu/womenshe...to-deliver.php

If we go by viable ... it appears to be roe v wades 24 weeks. There were 638,169 abortions in 2015, less than 1% were after 24 weeks. Thats 6,381 late abortions. How many of those were for life threatening medical reasons? How many 26 week pregnant moms were in horrific car accidents or injuries?

I hope there would be 0 elective abortions after 24 weeks. Id be curious to see the number.

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Europe - never did a deep dive into their abortion laws but now I know and I was surprised. There is a push in France, Italy and some other s to reform the abortion cutoff and extend it from 12 to 14 weeks. Yes, 14 is still less than 15.
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Here’s one way of looking at the difference between abortion laws in Europe and those in the U.S.: in America, abortion laws are about morality, while in Europe, they reflect national ideas of what constitutes the common good. …

Paternalistic abortion laws are, perhaps, the flip side of generous government benefits: The government provides amply for the babies you do have, but in return it gets to quiz you about your reproductive choices.

Subsequently, while a lot of these nations have abortion laws that formally reflect Christian paternalism about reproduction and women’s roles, in practice, abortion is much easier to get than it is in the United States. You may have to provide a reason for your abortion in many nations, but it’s simply a formality, a box checked and not an obstacle. More importantly, the abortion providers aren’t being hounded out of existence and in many cases, the cost of the abortion is paid for by the state health care plan. Katha Pollitt recently elaborated in The Nation:

https://slate.com/human-interest/201...-religion.html

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Russia and other countries with decreasing populations are placing more restrictions on abortion.

China wants to decrease population and has liberal abortion laws.
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Israel - i read a quote yesterday that a woman's womb is the womb of Israel. Something like that.

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20 weeks is my line. I feel like that is when the cerebral cortex just starts to develop.

Interesting conversation, I certainly googled a lot

[SunnySide]

The New York law allows for women after 24 weeks of pregnancy to get an abortion if “there is an absence of fetal viability, or the abortion is necessary to protect the patient’s life or health.”

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Seems the only time a woman can get an abortion after 24 weeks is if the fetus isnt viable or moms life or health is threatened.

Are there elective abortions after 24 weeks?

Seems not.

No one is aborting a viable fetus unless it medically necessary.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

The New York law allows for women after 24 weeks of pregnancy to get an abortion if “there is an absence of fetal viability, or the abortion is necessary to protect the patient’s life or health.”

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Seems the only time a woman can get an abortion after 24 weeks is if the fetus isnt viable or moms life or health is threatened.

Are there elective abortions after 24 weeks?

Seems not.

No one is aborting a viable fetus unless it medically necessary.

Seems like I posted this the last time this came up.

"Are there elective abortions after 24 weeks"?

Yes - thousands of them. Most people think that most late term abortions are abortions of unviable fetuses or due to extreme risk to the mother. They're wrong - most late term abortions are elective on healthy fetuses from healthy mothers.



https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6457018/

.....However, while the occasional politician or news reporter will still indicate that late-term abortions are most often performed in the case of “severe fetal anomalies” or to “save the woman’s life,” the trajectory of the peer-reviewed research literature has been obvious for decades: most late-term abortions are elective, done on healthy women with healthy fetuses, and for the same reasons given by women experiencing first trimester abortions. The Guttmacher Institute has provided a number of reports over 2 decades which have identified the reasons why women choose abortion, and they have consistently reported that childbearing would interfere with their education, work, and ability to care for existing dependents; would be a financial burden; and would disrupt partner relationships.3 A more recent Guttmacher study focused on abortion after 20 weeks of gestation and similarly concluded that women seeking late-term abortions were not doing so for reasons of fetal anomaly or life endangerment.....

For those of you who discount conservative sources some FYI for you.
Guttmacher Institute from wiki

The Guttmacher Institute is a pro-choice[1][2] research organization started in 1968 that works to study, educate, and advance sexual and reproductive health and rights

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[SunnySide]

https://youtu.be/cZj2uR85AAE

Grainy ass video of me and my ex getting arrested for running on the field at Camden opening day

i used to get drunk and post videos and pictures on here ... good times

[punch it in]

SS i cant see any video btw.