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Old 02-26-2020, 09:23 AM   #1
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Considering they are rebuilding and all but sold the house to get those picks I just don't see them trading to move up for Tua. While the Lions might draft a QB, its not their #1 priority so if anyone is in a good trade position its the Lions. Miami would likely pay a little less for #3 (2 x rd1 + change?) and the Lions needs make trading down a good move.

Giants won't take Tua having put their faith in Dimes, so if Miami can't/won't pull off a trade they are likely looking at Tua with the 5th pick anyway, or at worst they get Herbert if someone else moves up (Chargers?). I'm not sure I see anyone else with the pressing need at QB and/or the draft capital until Denver and they don't have a lot to trade aside from multiple 3's and 4's this year.

I'm just not seeing where the motive is for trading the farm just to get Tua. Is he really that special?
With Lions management telling Patricia he has to win this year or else I dont see the Lions drafting a QB. They will stick with Stafford one more year and hope he can stay healthy because when he was healthy last year the Lions weren't bad.
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Old 02-26-2020, 11:22 AM   #2
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With Lions management telling Patricia he has to win this year or else I dont see the Lions drafting a QB. They will stick with Stafford one more year and hope he can stay healthy because when he was healthy last year the Lions weren't bad.
I agree. I think both Quinn and Patricia pretty much have their jobs on the line this year, so drafting a QB in the first round doesn't seem too likely.
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Old 02-25-2020, 06:53 PM   #3
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Tua was programmed to be THE #1 draft pick before his hip injury. Now that he’s medically cleared, he.’s got A LOT of interest. He’s going to be someone’s franchise QB.

The real problem for the Redskins (if we’re looking for a big trade) is that with our front office and everyone else believing Chase Young is the BPA and our definite draft pick at #2, the logical thing for anyone who wants Tua is for them to trade with Detroit to get it.

The only team able to make an RG3-type trade is Miami. Why trade with the Redskins when they know we will take Chase? Cheaper with Detroit.

The Redskins would only give up Chase Young for Miami’s #5, it’s #18 and #39. With the #5 we could get Isaiah Simmons at LB ( position of need and the second BPA on defense) and -#18 they could get the top TE. Otherwise, why make the trade?

If there is an early draft trade, it will be with Detroit.


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Old 02-25-2020, 07:35 PM   #4
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Tua was programmed to be THE #1 draft pick before his hip injury. Now that he’s medically cleared, he.’s got A LOT of interest. He’s going to be someone’s franchise QB.

The real problem for the Redskins (if we’re looking for a big trade) is that with our front office and everyone else believing Chase Young is the BPA and our definite draft pick at #2, the logical thing for anyone who wants Tua is for them to trade with Detroit to get it.

The only team able to make an RG3-type trade is Miami. Why trade with the Redskins when they know we will take Chase? Cheaper with Detroit.

The Redskins would only give up Chase Young for Miami’s #5, it’s #18 and #39. With the #5 we could get Isaiah Simmons at LB ( position of need and the second BPA on defense) and -#18 they could get the top TE. Otherwise, why make the trade?

If there is an early draft trade, it will be with Detroit.


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Old 02-25-2020, 07:46 PM   #5
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Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?

Both the Lions at 3 and the Giants at 4 have said they are open to trade out of those spots.
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Old 02-26-2020, 12:54 PM   #6
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Both the Lions at 3 and the Giants at 4 have said they are open to trade out of those spots.


THIS!

Cincy want Burrows, we want Chase;

so if Miami wants Tua they just need to go to the Lions to get him. I don’t think the trade to get the third spot will involve nearly the monster trade ppl think it would be. The #5 and the #39 - PERIOD.

We’re getting CHASE! The Redskins will sell 5,000 more seats just to see what Chase does. Of course that still leaves 30k open seats! Lol.


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THIS!

Cincy want Burrows, we want Chase;

so if Miami wants Tua they just need to go to the Lions to get him. I don’t think the trade to get the third spot will involve nearly the monster trade ppl think it would be. The #5 and the #39 - PERIOD.

We’re getting CHASE! The Redskins will sell 5,000 more seats just to see what Chase does. Of course that still leaves 30k open seats! Lol.

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If Miami wants an almost 100% guarantee that they'll get Tua (or technically Burrow) they will need to be in the #2 spot.

Trading before the draft with the Lions or the Giants, always leaves a potential risk of another team jumping ahead of them to #2 (Chucky and the Raiders could easily come to us offering their two first rounder and a 2021 first rounder - I know crazy, but I wouldn't put it past him).

And trading after the Redskins pick Chase at #2 during the draft, gives the Lions or the Giants the advantage in the negotiations IMO.


Just my two cents. I want Chase, but it'd be crazy not to think about how valuable our #2 pick will become, and I would honestly hate to be in the Dolphins' spot right now.
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I just think only Miami has the draft picks needed to make a RG3-type trade for our #2. Because they have the #5 that gets you an elite player with that pick and another first rounder that gets another starter (#18) in the first round. That and a second rounder might tempt Rivera (#5, 18, 39). No one else has that much juice.

I guess a team could offer a Ditka-like deal for ALL their picks, but is that worth it and would someone offer that again?


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Charlie Casserly makes so much sense in this. He says he's taking Young. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrgy-VvsV2c
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Charlie Casserly makes so much sense in this. He says he's taking Young. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrgy-VvsV2c
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Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?

Mel Kiper "You take Tua at 2, you can have all the Chase Youngs in the world but he's not Tua"
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Mel Kiper "You take Tua at 2, you can have all the Chase Youngs in the world but he's not Tua"
https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2020/i...agovailoa-more

he still has us taking Chase
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He's trying to predict what the Skins will do and not stating what he thinks they should do.
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He's trying to predict what the Skins will do and not stating what he thinks they should do.
Gotcha, you are right.
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Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?

Mel Kiper is a tool. He usually writes lots of derogatory comments and articles on the Redskins. At least he says the Redskins may get better. Maybe with Bruce Allen gone and Rivera as the head executive, Kiper’s analysis will get more balanced.


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