Redskins trade for Alex Smith

[RobH4413]

Hate, hate hate this move. How in the world can you give up your highest rated player last year on defense? The man was a screen pass killer. He is a bonafide star in the making.

For Alex Smith.

We traded away our rising young defensive homegrown talent still under team control for an older Kirk Cousins. I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit.

This move reeks of the age old, "win now" mentality, and doesn't play like a team capitalizing on it's own building blocks. This defense will suffer from this, and now CB has been added this defenses long list of needs.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Hate, hate hate this move. How in the world can you give up your highest rated player last year on defense? The man was a screen pass killer. He is a bonafide star in the making.

For Alex Smith.

We traded away our rising young defensive homegrown talent still under team control for an older Kirk Cousins. I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit.

This move reeks of the age old, "win now" mentality, and doesn't play like a team capitalizing on it's own building blocks. This defense will suffer from this, and now CB has been added this defenses long list of needs.

Bro this is a WIN NOW league, we all know this.. Yeah it sucks losing Fuller (who apparently didn't even know) but its the NFL in today's world.. You can replace a CB much easier than a QB..

Would you rather have KF and Colt Mccoy starting or some rookie that is a huge ? Not me, I am tired of the "we will just ride it out" No I want to start winning now, and so does Jay.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Bro this is a WIN NOW league, we all know this.. Yeah it sucks losing Fuller (who apparently didn't even know) but its the NFL in today's world.. You can replace a CB much easier than a QB..

First off, you are not replacing your QB. That's up for debate, and I'll be pretty clear where I stand on that debate. An aging Alex Smith is no KC. I do not think he will put up numbers or play with the efficiency as KC in this offense. Jay Gruden has some work to do.

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Would you rather have KF and Colt Mccoy starting or some rookie that is a huge ? Not me, I am tired of the "we will just ride it out" No I want to start winning now, and so does Jay.

Short answer Yes. We will find out how this works. I would have used the extra dough from KC departure to sign a VET and draft a QB. Sucks, but you can always land a Dak Prescott, Russel Wilson, KC, later in the draft.

Ready to start winning now? This move won't do it. Bottom line our team got worse.

Ask yourself this question. Do you see a team like the Patriots or Eagles trading a high draft pick and/or a young defensive rising star under team control for a JAG at QB? I won't wait for your answer, it's absolutely not. But the Redskins will be doing it twice in eight years.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

First off, you are not replacing your QB. That's up for debate, and I'll be pretty clear where I stand on that debate. An aging Alex Smith is no KC. I do not think he will put up numbers or play with the efficiency as KC in this offense. Jay Gruden has some work to do.




Short answer Yes. We will find out how this works. I would have used the extra dough from KC departure to sign a VET and draft a QB. Sucks, but you can always land a Dak Prescott, Russel Wilson, KC, later in the draft.

Ready to start winning now? This move won't do it. Bottom line our team got worse.

Ask yourself this question. Do you see a team like the Patriots or Eagles trading a high draft pick and/or a young defensive rising star under team control for a JAG at QB? I won't wait for your answer, it's absolutely not. But the Redskins will be doing it twice in eight years.

Good post and I wanted to draft a QB like Mayfield who I think is the next RW, but I think the team knew they wouldn't get Baker or Allen, now you have a guy that can win you games and he doesn't turn the ball over at all.

Eagles let all of their talent go when they let shady and co. walk away but they struck gold with Wentz, that is luck. It sucks losing Fuller but I'd rather have a QB man.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Bro this is a WIN NOW league, we all know this.. Yeah it sucks losing Fuller (who apparently didn't even know) but its the NFL in today's world.. You can replace a CB much easier than a QB..

Would you rather have KF and Colt Mccoy starting or some rookie that is a huge ? Not me, I am tired of the "we will just ride it out" No I want to start winning now, and so does Jay.

We went 7-9 this year. We put Smith under center for last season does the pendulum swing at all? I just don't see it. I am not sure how this move gets us any closer to the playoffs let alone vying for a division title.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

We went 7-9 this year. We put Smith under center for last season does the pendulum swing at all? I just don't see it. I am not sure how this move gets us any closer to the playoffs let alone vying for a division title.

The pendulum doesn't swing, you are correct. However, not because Smith is 'worse' than Cousins. With the injuries this team suffered this season, aside from having Brady, Rodgers, maybe Brees, this team still finishes 7-9. This move, in my opinion, at a minimum maintains our current position with regard to the playoffs. If you wanted to keep Cousins it was going to take the 3rd franchise tag, period. He was never going to sign a long term deal here. So we got Smith for half that cost this year, and a reasonable contract for the next five years. But hey, we don't have to talk about the QB position any longer - we have our guy, Jay has his guy. Now the team has the resources to make up for the loss of Kendall Fuller and then some. Don't get me wrong, I don't like losing Kendall Fuller, but in big picture terms this is exactly what the doctor ordered. I'll take a pro-bowl QB for the next 2, 3, maybe 4 years for an up and coming CB all day, every day.

[Chico23231]

At point, its vital to see the numbers in the Alex Smith extension. Im praying for an out clause after the 3rd year.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

At point, its vital to see the numbers in the Alex Smith extension. Im praying for an out clause after the 3rd year.

71 M Guaranteed is all u really need to know, kirk will prob get 85 or 90m

[BaltimoreSkins]

I know it is 71 guaranteed but not sure what that means at this juncture. I guess we will find out on March 14th.

[Jayroc24]

I voted no, my reason why-

Like the Alex Smith as the QB.
Hate the Fuller plus the 3rd rounder, my thoughts that the 3rd was enough.
They were going to cut/trade him regardless....

We do not have the running game the AS needs to be successful.
Fat Rob is not the answer.

[skinsfaninok]

This is a QB driven league, I'll take having good Proven QB over a Good slot CB any day.

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[TheMalcolmConnection]

OK, so is this thing with Fuller confirmed? If so, I fucking hate this.

[sandtrapjack]

Thinking about it, this is actually the best option the front office had. For one, they knew they were not going to keep KC at the price they wanted. So if KC walked in FA, Washington does not get any compensation.

When KC left in FA, what were the options? Overpay for Keenum/Bradford/Bridgewater?

This path was the best option. They get a proven veteran at the price they can manage. They also get a compensatory pick. Something they would not have gotten had KC left as a free agent.

It was not a 'blockbuster' but it was the best option available. Best news is they ended the Cousins drama before it could get another head of steam.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Thinking about it, this is actually the best option the front office had. For one, they knew they were not going to keep KC at the price they wanted. So if KC walked in FA, Washington does not get any compensation.

When KC left in FA, what were the options? Overpay for Keenum/Bradford/Bridgewater?

This path was the best option. They get a proven veteran at the price they can manage. They also get a compensatory pick. Something they would not have gotten had KC left as a free agent.

It was not a 'blockbuster' but it was the best option available. Best news is they ended the Cousins drama before it could get another head of steam.

Agree with all of this

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Thinking about it, this is actually the best option the front office had. For one, they knew they were not going to keep KC at the price they wanted. So if KC walked in FA, Washington does not get any compensation.

When KC left in FA, what were the options? Overpay for Keenum/Bradford/Bridgewater?

This path was the best option. They get a proven veteran at the price they can manage. They also get a compensatory pick. Something they would not have gotten had KC left as a free agent.

It was not a 'blockbuster' but it was the best option available. Best news is they ended the Cousins drama before it could get another head of steam.

Applauding the FO for this move is silly. They created this mess when they shit all over themselves handling KC and now I am supposed to be happy with them cleaning up the mess they made the best they can? I expect more from my kids than people expect from the Redskins FO.