Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

[Jontrem]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Updated draft hopes

Round 1 RG3
Round 2 Mike Adams OT Ohio State
Round 3 Traded for 2nd round pick
Round 4 Traded for 2nd round pick
Round 4 Philip Blake C Blaylor
Round 5 Eddie Pleasant, SS Oregon
Round 6 Ryan Broyles WR Oklahoma
Round 7 Vontaze Burfict ILB Ariz St.

UDFA: Kellen Moore, QB Boise St.

I do want an explosive running back but not as much as I want to protect RGIII. We should resign Hightower, then grab our explosive RB next year.

I thought our 2nd rounder this year was part of the deal to move up to #2?
Edit - Sorry, I undertsand now, I thought in your scenario you were talking about trading the 3rd and 4th for a #2 next year...my bad

[Bubba305-ST21-]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

IMO Burfict will end up in baltimore in the 3rd round they have the support team to turn him around.

ive heard that some places and comparisons of him to ray lewis. i dont think he will go there nor do i think he is anything like ray

[diehardskin2982]

Roy Helu is explosive but he is not Darren Sproles, LaMicheal James, Percy Harvin, Stephfon Green, Chris Rainey styled running back. Helu has great straight line running speed but he doesn't have the vision to cut back and see lanes like others IMO.

Burfict in the 7th round would be a steal. 7th round pick's rarely make the team and the salary they recieve is negligible. Sitting for one year playing special teams and learning from fletcher about maturity, it's also great Daniel's is here to keep an eye on him.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by Bubba305-ST21-

ive heard that some places and comparisons of him to ray lewis. i dont think he will go there nor do i think he is anything like ray

Burfict ran slower than every LB at the combine except one and even most defensive linemen ran faster than him. That alone would make him a rookie free agent instead of a draft pick. He played so good in college and many people saw him as first round talent, but he's wasted both his combine and pro day and if he does get drafted, it will be in the later rounds.

[SBXVII]

Thought I'd share..... something I've been warning about a possibility of the Colts taking RG3....

Irsay says Colts still undecided on QB - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins

"If we decided to do a deal early with one of them, that's something we could definitely look into," Irsay said. "But we're still in the evaluation process right now."

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Thought I'd share..... something I've been warning about a possibility of the Colts taking RG3....

Irsay says Colts still undecided on QB - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins

2012 NFL draft -- Indianapolis Colts say Andrew Luck to visit for private workout - ESPN


this article states that the Colts are not going to bring RG3 for a workout.

[MTK]

Luck is going #1.

Bank on it.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Luck is going #1.



Bank on it.

Why do we keep having to repeat this? Are we fans really that Griffin drunk? Luck has been that #1 pick since 2009, nothings changed. Luck will be a Colt, Griffin will be a Redskin, EARTHQUAKE2689 will be a member of The Warpath, and Mattyk will be The Ego. Like it was meant to be.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Why do we keep having to repeat this? Are we fans really that Griffin drunk? Luck has been that #1 pick since 2009, nothings changed. Luck will be a Colt, Griffin will be a Redskin, EARTHQUAKE2689 will be a member of The Warpath, and Mattyk will be The Ego. Like it was meant to be.

You promise.

[skinsfaninok]

We all know luck is going 1, the colts want a QB similar to the Manning style. Rg3 is all but guaranteed a redskin unless we make the worst draft decision in league history or something

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Updated draft hopes

Round 1 RG3
Round 2 Mike Adams OT Ohio State
Round 3 Traded for 2nd round pick
Round 4 Traded for 2nd round pick
Round 4 Philip Blake C Blaylor
Round 5 Eddie Pleasant, SS Oregon
Round 6 Ryan Broyles WR Oklahoma
Round 7 Vontaze Burfict ILB Ariz St.

UDFA: Kellen Moore, QB Boise St.

I do want an explosive running back but not as much as I want to protect RGIII. We should resign Hightower, then grab our explosive RB next year.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Luck is going #1.

Bank on it.

I still don't see why this concept is so hard for people to understand. For the millionith time Luck is the most complete and dynamic prospect since John Elway. Almost any other year Griffin would be the top QB however in terms of QB prospects (again keyword 'prospects') Luck is basically the football equivalentof Jesus Christ come back to Earth.

Now what happens after draft day is a different story and I genuinely believe that Griffin can turn out better than Luck, but on draft day, when all that matters is the big board, Luck will be the top prospect for all 32 teams.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

You promise.

I promise.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

For the millionith time Luck is the most complete and dynamic prospect since John Elway. Almost any other year Griffin would be the top QB however in terms of QB prospects (again keyword 'prospects') Luck is basically the football equivalent of Jesus Christ come back to Earth.

By the same token, why is it hard for you to understand that the Kipers and McShays of the world aren't actual scouts.
But, even if they were actual scouts doesn't mean that scouts grade are correct.
All you're doing is listening to the media scouts you like and turning a blind ear to the media scouts you don't agree with (Cosell, Hodge).
Your actually turning a blind ear to some former NFL coaches and one of most well respected GM/scouts in the league in Tony Dungy and Gil Brandt.

False media scouting can lead to the perception of certain players as 'reaches' like Jake Locker even though it much more likely that actual team scouts rated Locker as the No.2 prospect behind Cam Newton all along.
And speaking of Cam Newton, he's a prime example of how wrong media scouting can be.
The media scouts tried to sell Blaine Gabbert as the no.1 QB and did a good job of selling Newton as an unworthy no.1 overall pick.
Good thing the actual scouts for the Panthers did their homework and got it right.
And I have a hard time believing that actual team scouts would rate Andrew Luck ahead of Cam Newton.

Andrew Luck's main attribute that would make him the no.1 prospect is a coachable intangible and many GM's say you draft for tangibles.
The theory is that you can coach/teach a Griffin or a Locker or a Newton to close the gap and equal if not surpass Luck the execution of a pro-style offense (which is his cheif advantage as a prospect) but you can't coach/teach Luck to have thier elite arm strength or elite athleticism.

Luck will be the top prospect for all 32 teams.

I believe Luck is the top prospect for many teams because he's a safer pick and teams tend to go the safer route.
But, lets not act like Griffin skillset is so far away from Luck to preclude an honest discussion about which QB is no.1

[REDSKINS4ever]

Most mock drafts I've seen since the regular season ended had the Colts taking Andrew Luck and the Redskins drafting RG3. I've only seen one mock draft showing the opposite.