2012 redskins

[T.O.Killa]

[quote=CrustyRedskin;867710]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I was kidding, I was making a joke out of the idea that we should draft another tackle. I mean C'mon Man, has this guy been watching Trent, he is an animal, when he is not smoking weed. It pisses me off, for god sakes this team needs a Quarterback and year after year I hear the same crap. My running joke is our team is full of Orakpo's, Landry's and Kerrigans. I have stated that if they dont get a vialble QB, in 2012, I am giving up my season tickets.[/QUOTE]

PM me in August ill be interested, and ill make sure they dont go to opposing team supporters. :headbange

Why wait till august. You can buy my tickets to the Vickings game for $100, they have a face value of $220. You can go freeze and watch a terrible team with no Quarterback play for nothing agian.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by tc2deuce

trade williams for a draft pick.....he pisses me off

Going forward in reverse, I like it. And who says we can't think outside the box here on the 'Path?

[CrustyRedskin]

[quote=T.O.Killa;867714]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

Why wait till august. You can buy my tickets to the Vickings game for $100, they have a face value of $220. You can go freeze and watch a terrible team with no Quarterback play for nothing agian.

Cause by August it should be a guarantee that we wont have a viable qb.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

QB Robert Griffin III, Rex Grossman, Kellen Moore
RB Roy Helu, Evan Royster, Jeff Demps
FB Darrell Young
WR Santana Moss, Leonard Hankerson, Dwight Jones, Jabar Gaffney, Brandon Banks
TE Fred Davis, Chris Cooley, Logan Paulsen
LT Trent Williams, Sean Locklear
LG Ben Grubbs, Mo Hurt
C Will Montgomery
RG Chris Chester
RT Willie Smith, Jamaal Brown

DE Jarvis Jenkins, Adam Carriker
NT Barry Cofield, Chris Neild
DE Stephen Bowen, Kentwan Balmer
OLB Ryan Kerrigan, Lorenzo Alexander
ILB Perry Riley, K. Fox
ILB London Fletcher
OLB Brian Orakpo, Rob Jackson
CB DeAngelo Hall, Cliff Harris
CB Josh Wilson, Kevin Barnes
FS Ray Ray Armstrong, Dejuan Gomes
SS LaRon Landry
K Graham Gano
P Sav Rocca
KR/PR Brandon Banks/Cliff Harris

[SBXVII]

Are we officially eliminated from the playoffs yet? If so could they cut Beck and add to the active roster Crompton? might be nice to see how he performs in an actual game to determine if he's worth keeping or cutting also.

My ideal scenario... the team drafts a QB round 1 and maybe another young one in a later round. Keep Grossman as a back up. Option 2 would be to pick up another QB in FA and draft a QB either 1st or 2nd round. Keep Grossman as a backup.

[GTripp0012]

I was doing some research on the FA right tackles, and I'm thinking that the only solution is going to be internal promotion. The top names are left tackles like Max Starks and Demetrius Bell, and those guys will command the big bucks. The top right tackles are Arizona's Brandon Keith, Oakland's Khalif Barnes, and Kareem McKenzie from the Giants. I am not sure that with Willie Smith might not be the best option.

Plus the internal promotion is nice because it doesn't force you to make a decision on Jammal Brown during the offseason. Brown's probably cooked as an NFL tackle, but if you are looking at Willie Smith or Sean Locklear on the right side next year, you can give Jammal Brown the preseason to evaluate him. If you're going to make a play for Max Starks or draft an OT in the first round, then Brown has to go in the middle of the offseason, and there is plenty of dead money associated with that.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I was doing some research on the FA right tackles, and I'm thinking that the only solution is going to be internal promotion. The top names are left tackles like Max Starks and Demetrius Bell, and those guys will command the big bucks. The top right tackles are Arizona's Brandon Keith, Oakland's Khalif Barnes, and Kareem McKenzie from the Giants. I am not sure that with Willie Smith might not be the best option.

Plus the internal promotion is nice because it doesn't force you to make a decision on Jammal Brown during the offseason. Brown's probably cooked as an NFL tackle, but if you are looking at Willie Smith or Sean Locklear on the right side next year, you can give Jammal Brown the preseason to evaluate him. If you're going to make a play for Max Starks or draft an OT in the first round, then Brown has to go in the middle of the offseason, and there is plenty of dead money associated with that.

So what you are saying is that my roster is brilliant?

[GTripp0012]

I would actually go as far as saying that unless we take our RT of the future high in the draft, we're pretty much heading into 2012 with the same offensive line group as in 2011. Maybe it makes some sense to take a center in the fourth round to compete for Erik Cook's roster spot, but the Williams, Lichtensteiger, Montgomery, Chester front four is actually a pretty strong group that looks a lot worse than it is because of injury and also because the RT has been dreadful ever since the team got rid of Jon Jansen.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Only reason I put Ben Grubbs is because I dont know how Lich will return from his torn acl.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I would actually go as far as saying that unless we take our RT of the future high in the draft, we're pretty much heading into 2012 with the same offensive line group as in 2011. Maybe it makes some sense to take a center in the fourth round to compete for Erik Cook's roster spot, but the Williams, Lichtensteiger, Montgomery, Chester front four is actually a pretty strong group that looks a lot worse than it is because of injury and also because the RT has been dreadful ever since the team got rid of Jon Jansen.

Willie Smith is our RT of the future, mark my words.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

So what you are saying is that my roster is brilliant?

Gotta have Kory Lichtenstieger on it for it to be brilliant.

Grubbs is a far more established guard being a legit first rounder and all, but I'm not sure he actually improves our team over the guy who has made 19 starts for us in the last two years.

I'd go something pretty close to that. For as inept as our offense has been this year, we have shockingly few holes to obviously upgrade. We're missing a RT, we're a receiver short of a top passing game, and the quarterback. But that's 8 or 9 players on the offense who should be back next year. Which means that most of the work is already done.

It would seem like the biggest decisions of the offseason are going to be on the defensive side of the ball, even if the top two draft picks are going to be offensive players.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

QB Robert Griffin III, Rex Grossman, Kellen Moore
RB Roy Helu, Evan Royster, Jeff Demps
FB Darrell Young
WR Santana Moss, Leonard Hankerson, Dwight Jones, Jabar Gaffney, Brandon Banks
TE Fred Davis, Chris Cooley, Logan Paulsen
LT Trent Williams, Sean Locklear
LG Ben Grubbs, Mo Hurt
C Will Montgomery
RG Chris Chester
RT Willie Smith, Jamaal Brown

DE Jarvis Jenkins, Adam Carriker
NT Barry Cofield, Chris Neild
DE Stephen Bowen, Kentwan Balmer
OLB Ryan Kerrigan, Lorenzo Alexander
ILB Perry Riley, K. Fox
ILB London Fletcher
OLB Brian Orakpo, Rob Jackson
CB DeAngelo Hall, Cliff Harris
CB Josh Wilson, Kevin Barnes
FS Ray Ray Armstrong, Dejuan Gomes
SS LaRon Landry
K Graham Gano
P Sav Rocca
KR/PR Brandon Banks/Cliff Harris

Only change would be a WR for me

Bowe instead of Jones

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Gotta have Kory Lichtenstieger on it for it to be brilliant.

Grubbs is a far more established guard being a legit first rounder and all, but I'm not sure he actually improves our team over the guy who has made 19 starts for us in the last two years.

I'd go something pretty close to that. For as inept as our offense has been this year, we have shockingly few holes to obviously upgrade. We're missing a RT, we're a receiver short of a top passing game, and the quarterback. But that's 8 or 9 players on the offense who should be back next year. Which means that most of the work is already done.

It would seem like the biggest decisions of the offseason are going to be on the defensive side of the ball, even if the top two draft picks are going to be offensive players.

Torn ACL is what stopped me from putting him there along with his FA status.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Only change would be a WR for me

Bowe instead of Jones

Want nothing to do with him.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Want nothing to do with him.

He produces w any QB