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again i'm not trying to take anything away from davis he is amazing all i am saying is so is cooley and some people are quick to forget what cooley has done, i'm not one of them and i can't wait to see cooley and davis tear shit up next year on the same field if we trade cooley away for a chance to pick up some one who might be a benifit to this team let alone a player of pro bowl caliber i think it would be a joke and an example of how f-ed our front office is
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12-15-2009, 10:12 PM | #214 | |
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i just hate how everyone sees davis have 4/5 good games and next thing you hear is trade cooley, and the same people say we need to build a team through the draft and stay young. we drafted him, and he is young wtf?
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12-15-2009, 10:13 PM | #215 | |
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I agree. It seems like Davis is better at finishing drives. My eye analysis (which probably isn't worth as much as the beer that I drink during the game) is that Davis creates more space than Cooley does. Cooley has the edge on breaking tackles but I think Davis is definitely faster. I think that both have great hands. |
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12-15-2009, 10:21 PM | #217 |
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In 7 games played, Cooley had 29 receptions for 332 yards and 2 TD's, in 13 games Davis has 35 receptions for 369 yards and 5 TD's. Davis first good game was the against Philly in Washington when Cooley got hurt. He actually started getting consistently better 3 weeks ago, against Philly again, then NO and Oakland. Isn't that the time our OL started playing better? What makes you guys think that Cooley couldn't have better numbers if he didn't get hurt? Bottom line it would be crazy to trade Cooley or Davis. How about Andre Carter, he's got high value? He's having a pro-bowl season and will be 31 in May, why not trade him now that we got Jarmon. If we draft a LB, Wilson could be moved to DE with Orakpo.
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my arguement is based off of what kinda of deal we could realistically get and imo those deals aren't worth taking
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12-15-2009, 10:29 PM | #219 |
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Looking back now, I'm thinking I'm starting to understand why the Redskins said no when the Broncos asked for Davis in any Cutler trade
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See this argument confuses me. Take Davis' numbers from when Cooley got hurt (overlap) and compare. Because I think it makes sense to compare numbers when they were both starting. Looking at that, they are negligable. I think what it proves is that both are starting quality tight ends. In other words, you could trade one of these guys and there isn't much of a dropoff. Now trading Carter is the same as trading Landry if you ask me. You trade Carter, you have a big hole. Sure you could stick Rak in there but we need him at linebacker right now. Yes we have Jarmon but he has a two year injury to come back from. So in my opinion trading Carter makes the team worse. Just like trading Landry creates a hole and makes the team worse. I think the basic idea in making a trade is to get something that improves your team and doesn't leave you with a bigger hole than you started with. |
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exactly why not have two starting te's no one will know who to cover in a double te set so we ship off cooley what happens when davis goes down we put in yoder? everyone keeps saying the word depth, does anyone know what that means????
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But we have other holes to fill (o-line, possibly corner, LB). If you trade a player and create a hole and then use the pick you traded for to fill the hole, I don't see how you are ahead. It doesn't seem that these talent evaluators can pick a guy outside of the first round who will start immediately. (Rocky, Devin, Fred, Malcolm, Tryon etc) so I can't count on them picking a starter with a 2nd or 3rd round pick. |
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I understand the depth argument. I think the general view is that if you can get a starting o-lineman along with another productive guy by trading one of these tight ends, is it worth it. I would say yes but there are a lot of variables. |
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