Skins v Eagles post game thread

calia · 09-10-2013, 01:58 PM

Well, a bit of a depressing start to the season -- getting crushed in the first half at home by a division rival on national TV. We rallied and made a game of it, but lots of things have to be corrected. it is a long season, and every year, we win one I think we're not likely to win, and lose at least one that I would have predicted a W -- let's hope that defines our first two weeks and that we pick up a W in Green Bay.

I thought Perry Riley was outstanding -- he and Kerrigan were really strong; Fletch and Rak were pretty quiet and that is a little disconcerting. To me, the biggest positive was Riley's play -- he was everywhere. Hankerson looked solid as well, and I thought Moss was his reliable self as well. Some positives to build upon, but we need to do it soon. Green Bay is going to be a challenge; we ought to beat the Raiders, and then we also have Detroit before the bye and they really did a number of the Vikings (even holding AP to a very modest rushing total). We really have to get two wins before the bye somehow -- we cannot dig ourselves a hole like we did last year, and the bye is so early that we won't have any time to regroup as the season wears on.

Chief X_Phackter · 09-10-2013, 01:59 PM

I put OTHER because it was all the above and then some. Not that they have to go back to the drawing board or anything. If they can clean up some things during the week, have a better defensive game plan in place for a "more familiar" GB offense, I would expect to come home with a hard fought W next week.

It was encouraging to see the Defense make the necessary adjustments to slow down that Philly offense, and it was encouraging to see the offense clean up their act as the game progressed. Unfortunately the early mistakes and miscues put us in too deep a hole to overcome.

Still a chance to go 3-1 for the first quarter of the season...

DynamiteRave · 09-10-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Griffin's comments after the game were spot on: "On offense we had a case of the 'can't get rights'. I don't throw picks, Alf doesn't fumble and Kai doesn't miss kicks. All three of those things happened."

On a side not, I am sorry to announce that JoeReverend is no longer with us. He was unfortunately stoned to death as most false prophets are.

It was a balancing out against the chicken little's we have here (myself included at times) JoeRev was the yin to the yang in these here parts.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 09-10-2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

"If Redskins would've played RGIII at least a few plays in the preseason they would've won last night." - Skip

"If we didn't give up the safety and made the extra point and the field goal the game would have been tied with 1:05 left on the clock" ... Me

Seriously though there were to many mistakes in the first half, and they didn't get the offense fired up until the 4th quarter.

IF III played in preseason and was injured we would have tarred and feathered Shanny. Its week one, 15 to go and the NFC East is up for grabs. I still believe it is our division.

donofriose · 09-10-2013, 02:08 PM

One positive note that I haven't seen discussed much is I thought Amerson played a quality game. Looks like he will be a good corner in the NFL.

SmootSmack · 09-10-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacks42

They started out at Bracket Room (new sports bar in Clarendon) then went down to A-town, that's where I saw them. Fred Davis goes there a lot. They all seem like good guys, but CMON MAN! its the season opener on Monday night, take a night off.

Did you actually see them drinking alcohol or were they just there?

SirLK26 · 09-10-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Sorry Skip but that's BS.

That wouldn't have helped with the other miscues, like the fumbles, tackling, blocking, etc. It was team effort.

I don't agree with this. I'm glad RG3 didn't play in the preseason; the risk of injury wasn't worth it. And it's true that it wouldn't have helped with other players' miscues. But playing RG3 for a half or so in preseason would have helped him "shake the rust off". To be honest, he looked terrible in the first half. He wasn't making the right reads, and he was missing receivers; basically, it looked like he was playing "stiff". He just didn't look comfortable. And that's because this was his first game action since the playoffs.

Playing in the preseason wouldn't have prevented the team's bad play, but it certainly would have helped RG3's game in the first half. And if RG3 would have played well, it would have partially negated the bad play of the other players; instead of a 19 point deficit at half-time, it would have been more like a 10 point deficit. The quarterback is the most important player on the field, and if he would have played well the whole game, it would have gone a lot better for everyone.

This Eagles' game was his preseason, and he will come out firing on all cylinders against Green Bay. Philly will be but a distant memory when we come out victorious.

DynamiteRave · 09-10-2013, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by donofriose

One positive note that I haven't seen discussed much is I thought Amerson played a quality game. Looks like he will be a good corner in the NFL.

When you're not getting your name called and you're a secondary player, that's typically a really good thing. I think he'll be a solid #1 for us next year.

CRedskinsRule · 09-10-2013, 02:39 PM

every time I look at this thread and see the level of discussion about the D, I'm amazed. Out of 10 drives that Philly started in their field, they had:
1 TD
1 FG
2 Turnovers (both resulting in TD's for the Skins 1 def. 1 off.)
5 punts
1 kneel down.

out of 4 starting on the Skins side, they had 3 TD's and 1 punt.

Short fields are offenses friends.

For the record, the Skins started 1 drive on the Eagles side and had 1 TD.
We had 2 drives that started outside our 30, we TD's on both.

If Kai makes that FG, we are playing to kick a game winner(wouldn't go for 2 the one time) instead of going for it on 4th and 15.

MTK · 09-10-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SirLK26

I don't agree with this. I'm glad RG3 didn't play in the preseason; the risk of injury wasn't worth it. And it's true that it wouldn't have helped with other players' miscues. But playing RG3 for a half or so in preseason would have helped him "shake the rust off". To be honest, he looked terrible in the first half. He wasn't making the right reads, and he was missing receivers; basically, it looked like he was playing "stiff". He just didn't look comfortable. And that's because this was his first game action since the playoffs.

Playing in the preseason wouldn't have prevented the team's bad play, but it certainly would have helped RG3's game in the first half. And if RG3 would have played well, it would have partially negated the bad play of the other players; instead of a 19 point deficit at half-time, it would have been more like a 10 point deficit. The quarterback is the most important player on the field, and if he would have played well the whole game, it would have gone a lot better for everyone.

This Eagles' game was his preseason, and he will come out firing on all cylinders against Green Bay. Philly will be but a distant memory when we come out victorious.

I still don't think risk was worth it for a guy coming off a major knee surgery. The fact he was back in the starting lineup week 1 was a pretty major accomplishment on it's own. If we want him around for the next decade, it's more important to keep the big picture in mind.

CultBrennan59 · 09-10-2013, 02:57 PM

Speaking of easing in a player. Would you all welcome back Tanard and immediately put him in as the starting FS knowing he's rusty but Rambo is also a rookie, or do you go with the growing pains of getting a young rookie safety acclimated to the NFL as a starter since the other starter hasn't played in a regular season game in 2 years?

SirLK26 · 09-10-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I still don't think risk was worth it for a guy coming off a major knee surgery. The fact he was back in the starting lineup week 1 was a pretty major accomplishment on it's own. If we want him around for the next decade, it's more important to keep the big picture in mind.

I don't think it would have been worth it either. Obviously, keeping RG3 healthy is far more important than winning an opening game. But what Skip Bayless said is true: if RG3 played in the preseason, we would have won that game.

hooskins · 09-10-2013, 03:15 PM

Is that assuming rg3 was 100% at the beginning of preseason?

Chief X_Phackter · 09-10-2013, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SirLK26

I don't think it would have been worth it either. Obviously, keeping RG3 healthy is far more important than winning an opening game. But what Skip Bayless said is true: if RG3 played in the preseason, we would have won that game.

Can't say that for sure.

You could just as easily say "if RG3 played in the preseason, he would have been lost for the season."

It's all speculation, and boils down to the fact that it wasn't worth the risk.

It's one game, time to move on.

CultBrennan59 · 09-10-2013, 03:17 PM

Oh yeah I guess another positive is Mr. Riley. He played a hell of a game. We should work out a long term deal with him soon, because London's gone next year.

Also when did he start going by Perry Riley Jr. ?

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09-10-2013, 01:58 PM	#196
calia Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woodside, CA Age: 56 Posts: 3,520	Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread Well, a bit of a depressing start to the season -- getting crushed in the first half at home by a division rival on national TV. We rallied and made a game of it, but lots of things have to be corrected. it is a long season, and every year, we win one I think we're not likely to win, and lose at least one that I would have predicted a W -- let's hope that defines our first two weeks and that we pick up a W in Green Bay. I thought Perry Riley was outstanding -- he and Kerrigan were really strong; Fletch and Rak were pretty quiet and that is a little disconcerting. To me, the biggest positive was Riley's play -- he was everywhere. Hankerson looked solid as well, and I thought Moss was his reliable self as well. Some positives to build upon, but we need to do it soon. Green Bay is going to be a challenge; we ought to beat the Raiders, and then we also have Detroit before the bye and they really did a number of the Vikings (even holding AP to a very modest rushing total). We really have to get two wins before the bye somehow -- we cannot dig ourselves a hole like we did last year, and the bye is so early that we won't have any time to regroup as the season wears on.

09-10-2013, 01:59 PM	#197
Chief X_Phackter Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 5,595	Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread I put OTHER because it was all the above and then some. Not that they have to go back to the drawing board or anything. If they can clean up some things during the week, have a better defensive game plan in place for a "more familiar" GB offense, I would expect to come home with a hard fought W next week. It was encouraging to see the Defense make the necessary adjustments to slow down that Philly offense, and it was encouraging to see the offense clean up their act as the game progressed. Unfortunately the early mistakes and miscues put us in too deep a hole to overcome. Still a chance to go 3-1 for the first quarter of the season...

09-10-2013, 02:08 PM	#200
donofriose The Starter Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 2,097	Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread One positive note that I haven't seen discussed much is I thought Amerson played a quality game. Looks like he will be a good corner in the NFL.

09-10-2013, 02:39 PM	#204
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,383	Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread every time I look at this thread and see the level of discussion about the D, I'm amazed. Out of 10 drives that Philly started in their field, they had: 1 TD 1 FG 2 Turnovers (both resulting in TD's for the Skins 1 def. 1 off.) 5 punts 1 kneel down. out of 4 starting on the Skins side, they had 3 TD's and 1 punt. Short fields are offenses friends. For the record, the Skins started 1 drive on the Eagles side and had 1 TD. We had 2 drives that started outside our 30, we TD's on both. If Kai makes that FG, we are playing to kick a game winner(wouldn't go for 2 the one time) instead of going for it on 4th and 15.

09-10-2013, 02:57 PM	#206
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,526	Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread Speaking of easing in a player. Would you all welcome back Tanard and immediately put him in as the starting FS knowing he's rusty but Rambo is also a rookie, or do you go with the growing pains of getting a young rookie safety acclimated to the NFL as a starter since the other starter hasn't played in a regular season game in 2 years? __________________ "Anyones better than Madieu Williams"

09-10-2013, 03:15 PM	#208
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Is that assuming rg3 was 100% at the beginning of preseason? __________________ Vacancy

09-10-2013, 03:17 PM	#210
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,526	Re: Skins v Eagles post game thread Oh yeah I guess another positive is Mr. Riley. He played a hell of a game. We should work out a long term deal with him soon, because London's gone next year. Also when did he start going by Perry Riley Jr. ? __________________ "Anyones better than Madieu Williams"

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