RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by donofriose

He is a backup quarterback, if the skins really believe he will be an answer as a starter they would be mistaken. Look at Flynn, Kolb from philly, there is a reason they are listed number 2 in depth charts. There was also a reason the skins did not want cousins to play in the playoff game. Maybe cause they knew Cousins would not win them that game. Extremely small sample size with Cousins and Redskins fans act like he is going to come in next year and take the team to the playoffs... Cousins is a great backup... average starter.

Way too early to make such claims about Cousins' ability to be a legit starter. Way too early

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I hate to play the what if game but a buddy at work borough up a awesome point.

What if we had got Peyton here and had drafted Cousins. Imagine 3 good years with PM and him teaching Cousins. Plus we still have all our draft picks. sigh.

The main problems with that scenario are:
1) Manning doesnt teach, he takes most or all the reps, and is solely focused on winning. That's not a bad thing, but I don't think Cousins would learn from Manning (no other qb has), and it's not his job. His job is to win.

2) Manning very possibly would be hurt behind our current line, which is built around rollouts screens and a qb that is mobile

[CRedskinsRule]

this was funny:

[donofriose]

I also think comparing any quarterback to Manning or Brady is foolish. Their career accomplishments are incredible and saying Cousins could be a 3 time super bowl champion with 5 superbowl appearances, 2 time MVP, and the best winning percentage ever seems like one of the most foolish players to compare anyone to, even a healthy RG3.

[MTK]

Brady was a once in a lifetime deal. Everyone likes to use that example but how many other players have replicated what he did?

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Brady was a once in a lifetime deal. Everyone likes to use that example but how many other players have replicated what he did?

For a 6th round draft pick, Tom Brady was certainly the most underrated NFL draft pick of all time. He was the steal of all steals coming out of Michigan.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

If we're talking hindsight, of course we'd rather have a healthy Wilson than an injured RGIII. But who's to say if we'd drafted Wilson, he'd have the same success here or not get hurt himself?

In hindsight, i think i'd probably prefer to sign manning in FA, draft cousins, and keep all our draft picks. We'd probably have earned a 1st round bye and be on our way to the superbowl.

But as the great Steve spurrier said highsight is always 50/50. I think the skins made the best decisions with the information they had at the time. RGIII was a great pick and im glad we selected him.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

If we're talking hindsight, of course we'd rather have a healthy Wilson than an injured RGIII. But who's to say if we'd drafted Wilson, he'd have the same success here or not get hurt himself?

In hindsight, i think i'd probably prefer to sign manning in FA, draft cousins, and keep all our draft picks. We'd probably have earned a 1st round bye and be on our way to the superbowl.

But as the great Steve spurrier said highsight is always 50/50. I think the skins made the best decisions with the information they had at the time. RGIII was a great pick and im glad we selected him.

They did make a great decision, and I would have loved to have Manning in the fold right now with a rookie backup. BUT the fact is PM didnt want to come to DC so we got who we got. If he hadnt been injured we would all still be happy and eagerly awaiting next year or we would be preparing to face the Falcons. Who knows.

I am still stoked to have RG III and it is impossible to predict his future as of know.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

They did make a great decision, and I would have loved to have Manning in the fold right now with a rookie backup. BUT the fact is PM didnt want to come to DC so we got who we got. If he hadnt been injured we would all still be happy and eagerly awaiting next year or we would be preparing to face the Falcons. Who knows.

I am still stoked to have RG III and it is impossible to predict his future as of know.

Its my understanding PM DID want to come here, and we were very interested, but the Salary Cap penalty kind of ruined that.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Its my understanding PM DID want to come here, and we were very interested, but the Salary Cap penalty kind of ruined that.

Your timing is about a week off.. The salary cap penalty came at the dawn on free agency on Monday afternoon.. The previous week it was clear Manning wasn't coming here and we made the RG3 trade with the Rams. He made it known he wasn't interested in facing his brother twice a year. We never had a legitimate shot at Manning.

Even with the injury, I'm 100% satisfied we made the moves we did. Our short and long term future is much brighter with RG3 than it would have been with Manning.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Your timing is about a week off.. The salary cap penalty came at the dawn on free agency on Monday afternoon.. The previous week it was clear Manning wasn't coming here and we made the RG3 trade with the Rams. He made it known he wasn't interested in facing his brother twice a year. We never had a legitimate shot at Manning.

Even with the injury, I'm 100% satisfied we made the moves we did. Our short and long term future is much brighter with RG3 than it would have been with Manning.

The penalty was announced at that time, but, contrary to what Shanahan stated initially, the Skins knew it was probably coming months in advance. Subsequent reports made that very clear. Its not like Mara was having secret meetings and negotiations with the NFLPA that the Skins, Cowboys, and other owners didnt know about.

The Skins had a meeting scheduled with Manning even after they made the trade for the #2 pick. You say we never had a legitimate shot of coming here, but youre making a bigger deal of his not wanting to play against his brother than it really was. I beleive SS even stated he was seriously considering us (although we were not necessarily the front runners) at the time.

Personally, i think we were planning two contingencies:
Plan A) trade for RGIII if we think we'll get the cap penalty; or
Plan B) sign manning and draft a QB if we dont.

Even after trading for the #2 overall pick, we still could have turned around and flipped it to the browns if we didnt get the penalty and decided we'd rather do Plan B. Still, i think its obvious that our preference was to go with Plan A. But if the Browns had secured the #2 overall pick and we did not get the penalty, i think we would have made a very strong push for Manning.

Injury aside, RGIIIs a perfect fit here. Luck is a perfect fit for the colts, Mannings a perfect fit in Denver. Everything worked out for the best.

[skinsfaninok]

I think mike vick is way better than RGIII let's just sign him and cut Griffin. Makes sense

[los panda]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I think mike vick is way better than RGIII let's just sign him and cut Griffin. Makes sense

yeah but before or after we trade cousins for gabbert and sign tim tebow?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by los panda

yeah but before or after we trade cousins for gabbert and sign tim tebow?

Dude gabbert is so much better than cousins and griffin, I bet u he could come in here and run the read option and not get hurt. Dude is a freak

[los panda]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Dude gabbert is so much better than cousins and griffin, I bet u he could come in here and run the read option and not get hurt. Dude is a freak

so we'll design our offense for those 3 guys. gabbert will take the snaps, with vick and tebow in the backfield behind him