Redskins at Bears Post Game Thoughts

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by saden1

Our defense has major holes in the defensive backfield and that Jim Haslett is a POS coordinator. If I could fire him right now I really would.

Sometimes we feel the same way about your posts.


Back to the game that we should have won...that was the ugliest 57-yard FG ever but I give Gould credit. I don't think I've seen a line drive FG made from that far. I wish one of our two kickers had that leg.

The RT position is really showing itself to be a problem. Polumbus got abused by Israel Idonje. I'm not worried about Griffin's fumble, he slipped on the field and it was very close to being an incomplete pass because his arm was a split second away from going forward.

Banks...doing it again. Another preseason TD that might convince coaches to keep him. One more good return game and I think he'll make it, even though I've been saying all along he wouldn't.

Bears D looked VERY good. I was impressed. I also think Cutler to Marshall is going to be very dangerous this season...they could be pushing Green Bay for the division.

[30gut]

Here are my game notes:


-Cedric Griffin beat deep by Marshall playing Cover 1 or 3 w/ D.Hall playing FS
- " beat inside on skinny post/slant in the RZ by everyone loves a Jeffery

- Morris nice vision, cutback, and running through contact early +++

- Gettis beat in pass pro on Griff 1st drop back -1
- 2nd series Monty pushed back -1

- 3rd series FUMBLE!
Morris should have checked his blitz pick-up block before going out on his route -1
Davis matched up 1 v 1 w/ Idoneje (sp?) and lost -1
Cooley probably should have at least chipped if not doubled down on Idoneje -1
Griff probably could have audibled the protection to account for #21 blitz from the (L) edge -.5
He's gotta hold on to the ball -1

-Riley juked in the hole by Bush for TD

Last play 1st qtr SACK
- Can Davis get some love? 1 on 1 Peppers holds his own +1
- Gettis & Polumbus beat in pass pro -1,-1, sack

o Where is Madieu? later...
Several solid tackles, a couple 'must' tackles to prevent huge play/TD (when Wilson -1 got beat by Benntt) ++

2nd QTR

- Monty pushed backed again-1
4:50 Gettis stood up -1

BANKS!

Cousins Got into a rhythm, had good pass protection, had open targets, showed good velocity and ball location

2nd Unit
1st serries
OL surges for Tristan Davis w/ nice cutback +1
Paulen +1 nice block no help

2nd series
-LeRib -1 missed 2nd level block on LB
Cook pushed back -1
Compton +1 nice block on the edge

PA Robinson +1 toasts DB in about 5 strides (impressive) ball underthrown -1

Niles comes off double team too early -1, Compton blocks no one -1
Paulsen blocks DE with no help +1
LeRib bull rushed and pushed back by DT -1

- Gettis doesn't get to 2nd level LB -1
Compton beat by McCellan -1
Smith +1
Gettis -1 on ground doesn't make block
Moll -1 missed 2nd level block
Cook good double +1 missed 2nd level block -.5

Tristan Davis needs to stop dancing and get north-south -1

Crawford nice change of direction to drive on pass and break it up/almost pick +1

Bailey 1st run
LeRib good speed to pull around the edge and lead way to reach 2nd level backers +1

Robinson +++ good route, good adjustment to catch a high pass, good RAC for TD!

9:05
Gomes -1 whiff, *noticed tendency to dive tackling instead of pop and wrap

Crawdog +1 blitz pressure

Nile Paul vs #76 1 on 1 no help, nice block +1

Doughty +1 forced fumble

Briscoe ++ strong route to get inside and use body to shield DB, nice RAC

Crawford +1 blitz pressure +1

[30gut]

The first team offense hasn't looked sharp coming out of the gate and gameplan or no gameplan the execution should be much better.
The offensive line has been inconsistent, and regardless of the injuries they must play better.
Griffin certainly hasn't had a lot of passing attempts (14) near league low.
Consequently I don't feel like Griffin has found a good rhythm in any of the preseason games thus far.
In the Bears game Griffin did not run a lot of our base offense, unless our base offense is going to be 3 TE 1 WR.

I don't want to see the 'new' wrinkles on the offense read option etc.
But, I do want to see our base offense executed at a much higher level.
I would like to see some offensive line step-up.
I want to see a scheme that accounts for the weaknesses up front that will allow adequate time for Griffin to work the offense and the runningbacks to have lanes.
I want to see Griffin get into a rhytm executing the base offense and give Fred Davis, Garcon, Hankerson and Moss multiple targets.

Then I want the first unit to sit the heck down and watch.

[The Goat]

Lots of good insight and solid comments in this thread IMO. I don't think anyone is seriously suggesting a QB controversy either...it's sort of a straw man that homers and hard-line FO apologists create to delegitimize anyone who makes a critical comment.

[REDSKINS4ever]

The Bears have a hard nosed stout defense. I was under no illusion. I knew RG3 would have to fight it out against a defense like that. For his first time playing against such a great defense, I thought he did well. The passing game lacked with the starters but RG3 did have a decent pass completion percentage. He just needs to learn how to scan the field quickly to locate an open receiver and if there is no one open, he should just take off and outrun the entire defense to the end zone for 6.

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Sometimes we feel the same way about your posts.


Back to the game that we should have won...that was the ugliest 57-yard FG ever but I give Gould credit. I don't think I've seen a line drive FG made from that far. I wish one of our two kickers had that leg.

The RT position is really showing itself to be a problem. Polumbus got abused by Israel Idonje. I'm not worried about Griffin's fumble, he slipped on the field and it was very close to being an incomplete pass because his arm was a split second away from going forward.

Banks...doing it again. Another preseason TD that might convince coaches to keep him. One more good return game and I think he'll make it, even though I've been saying all along he wouldn't.

Bears D looked VERY good. I was impressed. I also think Cutler to Marshall is going to be very dangerous this season...they could be pushing Green Bay for the division.

Did you watch the game? If both starting groups would have stayed Skins would have got beat by 50!!:vomit:

[SmootSmack]

For those wondering, Shanahan says Griffin will play the first half and one series in the 3rd quarter. That will be it for him this preseason

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

That pass was clearly on RGIII.

Paul still could have caught that pass. If every pass has to be perfect in order for the receiver to catch it, then that receiver doesn't need to play in the NFL.

[Lotus]

It's obviously time to start Crompton since he has yet to make even one mistake in a preseason game for us.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

For those wondering, Shanahan says Griffin will play the first half and one series in the 3rd quarter. That will be it for him this preseason

Pretty much the same thing as last week, huh? I guess that's enough.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

Did you watch the game? If both starting groups would have stayed Skins would have got beat by 50!!:vomit:

Pretty sure he was just saying they were lucky to win with that FG... granted who cares about winning or losing these games.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Lotus

It's obviously time to start Crompton since he has yet to make even one mistake in a preseason game for us.

hehe

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Lotus

It's obviously time to start Crompton since he has yet to make even one mistake in a preseason game for us.

One could equally assert that he has done nothing right. Plus, I heard he grabbed the wrong clipboard while standing on the sideline, accidentally sat in the DL's spot on the bench and talked to the guy in the urinal next to him while taking a piss. What kind of leadership can you expect from a guy like that.

[The Goat]

My notes on the offense:

Too early and way too small sample size to say much about RGIII and/or the offense overall but there are a few things we know.
A rookie QB will miss things and RGIII is no different. In one of his later series, on a 3rd down, he threw high downfield to a WR. It would have been a tough completion no matter what but RGIII was way off. The bigger thing on the play though is we had a TE, I think Davis, open enough across the flat for a 1st down. RGIII will see this on video and learn from it.
The offensive line is very weak at this point, even adjusting for a stout front 7 Chicago boasts. The line doesn't execute most plays well and struggles in both run blocking and pass blocking.
Garcon has neither the speed nor the strength of a true #1 WR. I went back and rewatched all the snaps where we had a view on Garcon and he really doesn't outrun anybody. The play most notable was the downfield bomb that was (incorrectly) called for pass interference. The DB had no trouble keeping up w/ Garcon, but more importantly he had no troube (easily) forcing Garcon out of bounce, which is why the pass interference call would never fly with real refs. I kind of see Garcon as a poor man's, albeit younger, Anquan Boldin. My fear is both the Shanahan's, out of ego, and RGIII, out of inexperience, will force too many shots Garcon's way and the offense suffers for it. Moss is still our best WR and Davis is the best overall downfield target, both coach and QB would be wise to play to this reality.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

Did you watch the game? If both starting groups would have stayed Skins would have got beat by 50!!:vomit:

You've exceeded your quota for smiley faces today.

Matty was correct. Did YOU watch that kick? It was ugly. I was shocked it went through. Gould is the man.


Oh and that dropped pass by Niles...it hit him right on both of his hands. That was not on Griffin in any way.