Gun Control Thread- Should we?

[saden1]

I find it interesting that you think rules for securing chemicals are pointless. I'm sure weapons grade fertilizer can be found at your local home depot.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

I read your (ancient) link, it's a 'proposed' rule, not in force. Ahem.....

A 'feel good', knee-jerk piece of legislation designed to placate sheeple.

Just trying to communicate with you makes me feel more stupid.

:frusty:

These are rules that are being implemented as we speak and should super seed an interim rule that is currently in effect.

Bottom line, we're sheep and terrorist and mass murderers are always going to be smarter than us. No need to create hurdles for them.

[RedskinRat]

Where did I say 'pointless'?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You know what I was saying. In my day if you acted up in class the teacher would come over and yank your ass out of class. If that happened today they would end up in court and looking for a new job. Kids know this and do as the please. Your 50 and I'm sure if you looked at your teacher back in school and said you had rights they would have shown you your rights. We feared our teachers while at the same time we respect them and loved them.

Roughing up or intimidating kids isn't the answer IMO.

I'm only 40 thanks. I never had a teacher lay a hand on me.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Where did I say 'pointless'?

A 'feel good', knee-jerk piece of legislation designed to placate sheeple.

All you're doing is trolling. There isn't a single post where you intimate anything can be done or should be done. If you truly believe semi-automatic rifles (why semi-automatic? why not full automatic?) are necessary and useful for self-defense I don't believe you're of sound mind and it makes it hard to take you seriously.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well a good example is that a kid can steal several cars and never serve a day in jail. I had a car stolen by a kid who had also stolen 3 prior cars. Never served anytime for any of those crimes. The only reason he served anytime for stealing my car is because he had turned 18. My guess is if that happened in any outher country he would have been in jail.

Yeah, because our prison system is full of guys incarcerated for drug charges. Legalize drugs and you free up a system to put away REAL bad guys, not ones that tobacco/alcohol/pharmaceutical companies want locked up for competing with their products.

...and shit like this. Ten years for hacking?

Hollywood hacker sentenced to 10 years in prison - Yahoo! News

Nah...we didn't have bigger criminals roaming around out there that needed the space.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

I read your (ancient) link, it's a 'proposed' rule, not in force. Ahem.....

A 'feel good', knee-jerk piece of legislation designed to placate sheeple.

Just trying to communicate with you makes me feel more stupid.

:frusty:

That's because he posts with media hype and buzzwords and emotion and not facts.
And he still doesn't know the difference between a basic hunting rifle and what the media calls an assault rifle.

[saden1]

Perfect for self-defense and hunting...7 yo children.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

These guns have been around for a long time but these mass killings are something fairly new. Something other then the access to guns has changed and that's what needs to be fixed.

I think I stated a a big reason why these mass murders will continue and it's not because of guns. Nobody even talked about it or even commented. Why?




Listen to this forensic psychiatrist at near the end of this clip. Just listen to him. Hear him. Soak that in......now....put the pieces of many of the past mass murders together.


1) Columbine - Black trench coats, armored, anti-heros, going out in blaze of glory
At last we know why the Columbine killers did it. - Slate Magazine

2) Virginia Tech - Black military type gear, armored, anti-hero, going out in blaze of glory

Virginia Tech Shooting Confession Video - YouTube

3) Aurora Theater shooting - Black military type gear, armored, anti-hero, going out in blaze of glory (this guy punked out on killing himself)

4) Sandy Hook theater - Dressed in black fatigues, armored, anti-hero, going out in blaze of glory.


I want all of you to stop and think about this for a second. Look at the similarities here. They all have several things in common.

1) All planned at length
2) All sought to make a splash with the media
3) All see themselves as anti-heros
4) All have psychiatric problems or signs of it

In each case, they seem to try and one up each other to get the maximum press coverage once they are gone.


Our media is feeding these types of individuals. Like FD said, guns have been around for quite sometime, so why is it now that they are occurring. Well, when you eliminate common denominators, the only thing left between now and then is the explosion of the information age. Now, what once would be considered local even national news is now put on the world stage for all to see.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by saden1

My point is people with guns can be mowed down too and it can be done most effectively with the help of awful rifles the NRA advocate citizens should be able to carry for "self-defense." Even an office where everyone can be presumed to be packing can't protect itself against a killer toting semi-automatic gun with 100 round magazine. I'm not sure a killer would be as effective with a 9mm pistol. Sure, they will be able to kill the assailant but not before lots of people are on the ground bleeding, dying or dead.

I'm buying what you're selling.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by saden1

There isn't a single post where you intimate anything can be done or should be done.

The pro gun crowd doesn't have answers. Some even seem to ignore the alarming stats that point to a serious problem. I cannot fathom how they don't find concern with the sheer amount of guns owned in the country. If guns aren't he problem...or a part of it...then what is?

Who here denies that we have a gun violence issue in the country?

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I think I stated a a big reason why these mass murders will continue and it's not because of guns. Nobody even talked about it or even commented. Why?




Listen to this forensic psychiatrist at near the end of this clip. Just listen to him. Hear him. Soak that in......now....put the pieces of many of the past mass murders together.


1) Columbine - Black trench coats, armored, anti-heros, going out in blaze of glory
At last we know why the Columbine killers did it. - Slate Magazine

2) Virginia Tech - Black military type gear, armored, anti-hero, going out in blaze of glory
Virginia Tech Shooting Confession Video - YouTube

3) Aurora Theater shooting - Black military type gear, armored, anti-hero, going out in blaze of glory (this guy punked out on killing himself)

4) Sandy Hook theater - Dressed in black fatigues, armored, anti-hero, going out in blaze of glory.


I want all of you to stop and think about this for a second. Look at the similarities here. They all have several things in common.

1) All planned at length
2) All sought to make a splash with the media
3) All see themselves as anti-heros
4) All have psychiatric problems or signs of it

In each case, they seem to try and one up each other to get the maximum press coverage once they are gone.


Our media is feeding these types of individuals. Like FD said, guns have been around for quite sometime, so why is it now that they are occurring. Well, when you eliminate common denominators, the only thing left between now and then is the explosion of the information age. Now, what once would be considered local even national news is now put on the world stage for all to see.

Maybe we should ban black clothes

[saden1]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Maybe we should ban black clothes

I think his point is that it's a game now and an evil one at that. These people are mentally stable enough to put on war fatigue.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by saden1

I think his point is that it's a game now and an evil one at that. These people are mentally stable enough to put on war fatigue.

No I know.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Maybe we should ban black clothes

Originally Posted by saden1

I think his point is that it's a game now and an evil one at that. These people are mentally stable enough to put on war fatigue.

I think at this point, it's you all that are trolling, not the other way around.