I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

[Higskin]

Honestly, if we ended up taking a RB with #6, I'd be ticked. Shanahan has said Royster reminds him of a young Terrell Davis and Helu is going to be special as well. I think we're set with those guys and HT.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by NYCSkin

Just a few questions to the forum re: the Bradford rumors...

Wasn't Jeff Fischer motivated (at least in some part) to take the Rams job because they had a perceived franchise QB in Sam Bradford? Now he wants to trade him and take a shot with a rookie QB (presumably RGIII)?

I imagine Gregg Williams would love to have Orakpo at his 4-3 end which is probably his best fit. But with Quinn and Long on their roster already--do they even need Orakpo?

I am not opposed to trading Orakpo who in my opinion is out of his natural position and seems to have plateaued. He seems to have less upside than Kerrigan. Rob Jackson could probably nearly equal Rak's production at this point. Certainly in those Geico commercials...

Leveraging Orakpo's trade value, who is part of the Skins strongest unit (LBs), to potentially improve the most critical position on the team seems like a smart and prudent strategy.

I am fairly confident the main reason was in Miami Fisher would have been taking orders from Jeff Ireland, where as in St. Louis he was given the keys to the city with personnel decisions.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

How long until this thread intertwines with all the other threads of us getting RG3, Luck, Peyton being cut, we should draft ___, etc. etc. I'm already feeling another 45+ pager...

IDK. VTSkins brought something different to this ... "get QB or I'm turning in my fan card" comments. He mentions he'd like to see the Skins (yet again make a change after 2 yrs) go back to a 4-3, but funny someone would want that when our defense was not the problem last year and they even played better then the year before.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

1 out of 4= 25%

What day exactly does the league office open for the new year and free agency and trades can occur?

Lol did you edit a team out or am I tripping?

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Switching back to a 3-4 now would be retarded. Haslet is not going anywhere so let him get the last few pieces he needs for his side of the ball before we scrape this D. They were significantly better this year then last, and they will get better. No reason to go back now.

The more I think about Rak, I think he should be shopped. He may not be the right fit for an OLB in a 3-4. He really fell off this year even though we upgraded the whole unit.

If he is a piece we can part with to get a QB then I am all for it. We can find another player who plays as well as him quicker then we will find another QB we really like.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

I am fairly confident the main reason was in Miami Fisher would have been taking orders from Jeff Ireland, where as in St. Louis he was given the keys to the city with personnel decisions.

That's what I heard.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Lol did you edit a team out or am I tripping?

It wasn't my post u quoted haha so I'm unfortunately gonna have to say the later. The offseason does that to people and luckily your amongst friends who won't judge....much.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

I was surprised at how critical he was of Rex. Somewhat refreshing. I came away from the interview feeling a lot better about Kyle Shanahan.

My favorite quote - "He kept both teams in most games."

I thought the most interesting thing he said was when he described Helu as a change of pace back. I thought he looked like more then that.

[Higskin]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Switching back to a 3-4 now would be retarded. Haslet is not going anywhere so let him get the last few pieces he needs for his side of the ball before we scrape this D. They were significantly better this year then last, and they will get better. No reason to go back now.

The more I think about Rak, I think he should be shopped. He may not be the right fit for an OLB in a 3-4. He really fell off this year even though we upgraded the whole unit.

If he is a piece we can part with to get a QB then I am all for it. We can find another player who plays as well as him quicker then we will find another QB we really like.

I'll start by saying that I'm a huge Rak fan. I love the fact that he hates losing, he is a competitor and I think he likes being a Skin. However, the thing that bothers me most is he gets stood up so easily and seems so limited in his moves. I don't get why he hasn't shown improvement this year.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

IDK. VTSkins brought something different to this ... "get QB or I'm turning in my fan card" comments. He mentions he'd like to see the Skins (yet again make a change after 2 yrs) go back to a 4-3, but funny someone would want that when our defense was not the problem last year and they even played better then the year before.

Funny how this is a thread started about us possibly getting Andrew Luck or Sam Bradford, then it changes to the possibility of us going back to a 4-3 defense...

If people have thoughts about other topics, then they should post those topics in the proper thread, these threads gets so big to the point where theres so many off topic posts and pages to read that you just end up skimming through some of the important posts.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Switching back to a 3-4 now would be retarded. Haslet is not going anywhere so let him get the last few pieces he needs for his side of the ball before we scrape this D. They were significantly better this year then last, and they will get better. No reason to go back now.

The more I think about Rak, I think he should be shopped. He may not be the right fit for an OLB in a 3-4. He really fell off this year even though we upgraded the whole unit.

If he is a piece we can part with to get a QB then I am all for it. We can find another player who plays as well as him quicker then we will find another QB we really like.

We are in a 3-4 now.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

We are in a 3-4 now.

I'm quite positive he meant 4-3. I'm assuming he did anyways or I at least gave him the benefit of the doubt.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by celts32

I thought the most interesting thing he said was when he described Helu as a change of pace back. I thought he looked like more then that.

http://www.thewarpath.net/862810-post34.html

[VTSkins1961]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

IDK. VTSkins brought something different to this ... "get QB or I'm turning in my fan card" comments. He mentions he'd like to see the Skins (yet again make a change after 2 yrs) go back to a 4-3, but funny someone would want that when our defense was not the problem last year and they even played better then the year before.

I'm not implying that we should switch back for the sake of switching back. I'm saying I would want us to switch back to a 4-3 before trading Orakpo. Both would not be good. I'm totally against trading Orakpo. I think that Orakpo will continue to improve as an OLB.

The defense has improved but in my humble opinion we should have never gone to a 3-4. Now that we have we should try to ride it out at least 2 more years before making any real judgement on it.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

http://www.thewarpath.net/862810-post34.html

Haha...I remember that post. I didn't really believe it at the time but I do now after hearing Kyle on Friday. His description of the RB's seemed to me like the one portion of the interview where he was being completely honest and not worrying about tipping his hand. I liked his comment on Hank also...seems like they are still real high on him.