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View Poll Results: Is Chad Johnson worth a 1st and Conditional 3rd Round Pick? | |||
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96 | 56.80% |
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73 | 43.20% |
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Playmaker
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Re: Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)
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Re: Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)
So again, how does losing one pick this year take away from our ability to fill needs? There would still be 8 picks on the board.
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Re: Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)
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We should keep the pick and pay that 1st rounder his market value. Or trade down. We'd gain talent for the long haul and help keep ourselves out of cap trouble in a potential uncapped season.
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Re: Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)
We don't even know at this point what would escalate that 3rd rounder to a 1st. But it's safe to assume it would have to be some pretty significant triggers, so let's not act like two #1's would be a foregone conclusion.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Re: Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)
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You know that CJ is worth the compensation but not enough that you think that CJ will help Redskins to be a Super Bowl contender? You're already agreeing that CJ is not going to help the Redskins to a Super Bowl contending run by counting out the possibility that next years number one pick is going to be safe.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)
Dan Snyder has been too quiet for too long... He can't resist but cough some money to bring him into DC.
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 46
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Re: Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)
I've got to ask supporters of the trade offer for CJ a few questions. What are the chances that Chad would become a major de-stabilizing locker room force if he doesn't get enough balls thrown his way or we struggle to win games in 2008? Had Brandon Lloyd been put up Chad Johnson-like numbers during his tenture in D.C., would you have wanted him around?
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Uncle Phil
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Re: Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)
Not exactly sure what you're askin. Are you asking if Brandon Lloyd's actions would have been acceptable if he put up numbers like Chad Johnson?
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Re: Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)
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First, do you think Chad Johnson would become a locker room problem if: (a) the Redskins do not win a lot of games in 2008; or (b) Campbell doesn't throw the ball Chad's way 5-6 times per game? Second, would you have wanted the Redskins to retain Brandon Lloyd had he been a Pro Bowl caliber wideout? Fairly or not, I was implying that Chad Johnson is a highly productive version of Brandon Lloyd. Personally, I wouldn't have wanted the Redskins to retain Brandon Lloyd even if he was putting up T.O. type numbers. |
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Uncle Phil
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Re: Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)
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As for part 2 to your question. Brandon Lloyd reportedly would yell at the administrative and personal assistants at Redskins Park, for no reason. I don't know that CJ does that. But apart from that, if Brandon Lloyd could produce the way Chad Johnson has then yes I could definitely be happy with that. That's why we brought him here, to produce on the field. I mean if either one had real issues (see: PacMan Jones) then no I wouldn't want either one. If he's so disruptive don't you think the Bengals would be a bit more willing to let him go? I think his production trumps his disruption. But I'm not, to be clear, an adamant supporter of a trade for Chad Johnson. I think it has to be the right deal. I feel that the current deal is pretty fair. I wouldn't mind getting an extra pick from them, but the deal as it is isn't awful. If the Redskins were to trade their 1st and 2nd this year, that'd be a different story.
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Re: Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)
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I think the Bengals believe his production trumps his disruption, but aren't they a shining example as to why character matters? Their team is in tatters, their locker room appears divided, and they are reaping what they have sown. True, Chad hasn't been in trouble with the law. But, I think character evaluations should be based on more than one's rap sheet. |
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Uncle Phil
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Re: Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)
Chad Johnson would be a nightmare for a brand new coach and a developing QB. Stick with the draft.
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Uncle Phil
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Re: Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)
Why would he be a nightmare?
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