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Old 01-12-2020, 04:34 PM   #1
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This type quote drives me bonkers. The eco-warrior mentality that has spread through this nation is a plague in it's own right. I am not a climate change denier, because the climate has ALWAYS been changing. And doomsday has always been 15-30 years away. Do you know why it is always 15-30 years away, 2 main reasons 1 political and 1 factual

The political is easy, if the world is doomed in 15 years we must elect the politicians now to prevent it. But when will us citizens, intelligent as they are, realize that for the pokiticians it isn't about saving the world, it is a out saving their power and scaring their base. It is a tried and true tactic of all politicians, left and right.

The second reason doomsday is always 15-30 years away is because, and I know this will shock every liberal here, humans adapt and learn and progress WITHOUT government interference. Climate change, even "the planet will die" type is a glacially slow process versus innovation and human adaptability. Yes the planet's ecosystem will continue to change, and the pollution from technologically backward countries with large populations like India, China, and Russia will continue to damage it. The solution is not to sign feel good nanny state regulations but to encourage and strengthen innovation of proven technologies like nuclear and coal that produce energy in cost effective ways, and continue tryin to find new ways to make wind, solar, geo and other reuasable technologies cost effect on a kilowatt per dollar spent

By the way, what drives much of the innovation, yup you guessed it - short term economic gains.

I have no clue about what ficticuous doomsday scenario you are ranting about. If you are talking about things such as oil reserves wil;l be exhausted in 40-60 years. Well of course that is going to fluctuate we, in the scientific field, cannot estimate oil reserves based on future technology that currently doesn't exist that is highly disingenuous and biased.

Seconmdly you cannot seriously believe that government regulation has not improved the technology that you have just been discussing. If so you seriously need to go back into the attic and crack open the U.S. history and world history textbooks you should have read in high school. Regulations lead to improved technology that we could then share with developing countries and prevent them from having to spend valuable dollars on research and design.

Nobody is suggesting field good "nanny" state regulations you sir are fear mongoring no more no less. Instead he has been weakening the four most important human health legislations in the Clean Air, Clean Water, Safe Drinking Water and Endangered Species Acts. If regulationg our national common resources such as air, water and genetric resources such as biodiversity shouldn't be priority number 2 behind national safety I don't know what the poibnt of a federal government is.

As for your last statement that is only true when the current methodology becomes unprofitable. If a government had the foresight to you know decide that hospitilization due to respiratory illness on orange, red and purple air quality days should be paid for by those that are responsible for the air quality you do see innovation, but it comes from ecomic gain driven by regulation.
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Old 01-12-2020, 11:32 AM   #2
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But back to impeachment

Looks like Pelosi will send the articles over this week. If people thought the Cavanaugh hearing was a spectacle just wait till this gets rolling.

And god forbid Trump has the opportunity to appoint a SC justice during the impeachment trial. There would be a cosmic liberal meltdown as McConnell pushed the nominee forward.

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Old 01-12-2020, 12:17 PM   #3
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But back to impeachment

Looks like Pelosi will send the articles over this week. If people thought the Cavanaugh hearing was a spectacle just wait till this gets rolling.

And god forbid Trump has the opportunity to appoint a SC justice during the impeachment trial. There would be a cosmic liberal meltdown as McConnell pushed the nominee forward.

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I could sit here and nitpick about how McConnell made up the rule about how Obama can't pick a SC nominee during his last year in office because they don't have the time to properly vet the nominee, and then turn around and speed rush Trump's nominees through, but we all know you guys are just making up the rules as you go.

I could also point out how each senator is going to take an oath to judge the impeachment trial impartially, yet McConnell and Graham have both already said they will be acting as the President's defense (and so will the rest of the Republican majority, despite the Senate oath to act as the jury). Republicans have literally prioritized protecting the president above the Constitution of the United States of America (you know, that holy document that allows you the right to bear arms).

In case you forgot:
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Form of oath to be administered to the members of the Senate sitting in the trial of
impeachments:
I solemnly swear (or affirm, as the case may be,) that in all things appertaining to the trial
of the impeachment of , now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the
Constitution and laws: so help me God.
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory...hmentRules.pdf

I could also point out how every single impeachment trial in the Senate has called witnesses, yet your leaders have already said they won't call any witnesses or listen to new evidence.

I could also point out how the entire Republican argument has always gone back to Trump's defense that this is a sham, without debating any of the 8 witnesses who testified in front of the house under penalty of perjury. Your entire argument literally rests on the theory that anyone who hates Trump is biased and therefore is an unreliable witness.

I could also point out how Trump was not willing to testify, or let anyone from the executive office testify in front of the House in defense of their actions.

In any court of law this would all be major red flags. Trump gets to claim executive privilege though. Congratulations, you've succesfully made the position of POTUS entirely above the law. Hope that double standard applies with the next Democratic president.

I could also point out how Republicans have succesfully introduced partisanship to every branch of gov't, from Congress, from the judiciary system, to the highest court of the land, to the intelligence community, to the law enforcement community, all the way down to the state and county level with gerrymandering.

Enjoy your day gents, because it certainly won't last forever. I just hope we get to play by the same rules you have introduced. Winning is the name of the game, even at the expense of half of America.
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Old 01-14-2020, 09:11 PM   #4
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I could sit here and nitpick about how McConnell made up the rule about how Obama can't pick a SC nominee during his last year in office because they don't have the time to properly vet the nominee, and then turn around and speed rush Trump's nominees through, but we all know you guys are just making up the rules as you go.

I could also point out how each senator is going to take an oath to judge the impeachment trial impartially, yet McConnell and Graham have both already said they will be acting as the President's defense (and so will the rest of the Republican majority, despite the Senate oath to act as the jury). Republicans have literally prioritized protecting the president above the Constitution of the United States of America (you know, that holy document that allows you the right to bear arms).

In case you forgot:


https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory...hmentRules.pdf

I could also point out how every single impeachment trial in the Senate has called witnesses, yet your leaders have already said they won't call any witnesses or listen to new evidence.

I could also point out how the entire Republican argument has always gone back to Trump's defense that this is a sham, without debating any of the 8 witnesses who testified in front of the house under penalty of perjury. Your entire argument literally rests on the theory that anyone who hates Trump is biased and therefore is an unreliable witness.

I could also point out how Trump was not willing to testify, or let anyone from the executive office testify in front of the House in defense of their actions.

In any court of law this would all be major red flags. Trump gets to claim executive privilege though. Congratulations, you've succesfully made the position of POTUS entirely above the law. Hope that double standard applies with the next Democratic president.

I could also point out how Republicans have succesfully introduced partisanship to every branch of gov't, from Congress, from the judiciary system, to the highest court of the land, to the intelligence community, to the law enforcement community, all the way down to the state and county level with gerrymandering.

Enjoy your day gents, because it certainly won't last forever. I just hope we get to play by the same rules you have introduced. Winning is the name of the game, even at the expense of half of America.

Trump has already lowered the credibility and respect of this country and the Office of the President around the World with his lies and crooked dealings but if Chief Justice Roberts doesn't control this shit show trump will succeed in bringing down the SCOUS. He will have officially destroyed the country.
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Old 01-15-2020, 12:01 AM   #5
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Trump has already lowered the credibility and respect of this country and the Office of the President around the World with his lies and crooked dealings but if Chief Justice Roberts doesn't control this shit show trump will succeed in bringing down the SCOUS. He will have officially destroyed the country.
Lol. Such hyperbole. Step off the ledge.
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Old 01-15-2020, 06:18 AM   #6
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Lol. Such hyperbole. Step off the ledge.
.....................typical trumpette response .

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Old 01-12-2020, 12:18 PM   #7
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But back to impeachment

Looks like Pelosi will send the articles over this week. If people thought the Cavanaugh hearing was a spectacle just wait till this gets rolling.

And god forbid Trump has the opportunity to appoint a SC justice during the impeachment trial. There would be a cosmic liberal meltdown as McConnell pushed the nominee forward.

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It won't be. Senators aren't allowed to speak. They have to hand write any questions they want answered. McConnell isn't going to let the Senate become a shit show like the House would be even though he's going to rig the trail like he said he would.
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Old 01-17-2020, 07:55 PM   #11
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Sadly this won't matter ,the Republicans have already said this Impeachment will be white washed...................


https://www.yahoo.com/news/governmen...154124811.html


Government Accountability Office Finds That Trump White House Illegally Held Up Ukraine Aid


President Donald Trump’s White House violated federal law by withholding military aid to Ukraine, a top government watchdog announced on Thursday, dealing a blow to the administration’s case against impeachment as the Senate prepares to put Trump on trial.

The Government Accountability Office dismantled the White House Office of Management and Budget’s rationale for withholding the $214 million in congressionally appropriated security assistance, which Trump held up as he and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, pressed the Ukrainian government to reopen investigations into Trump’s political rivals.

Trump has consistently denied that withholding the aid was at all related to his and Giuliani’s efforts to dig up dirt on the youngest son of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden. That question is at the center of impeachment allegations referred to the Senate for trial this week.
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Good one, now that is funny.
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Old 01-17-2020, 08:54 PM   #13
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That whole "anybody who hates Donald Trump is a biased liberal who can't be trusted" defense is actually working beautifully right now. As long as they have full commitment from the roster Trump can literally do anything he wants. The system works!
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That whole "anybody who hates Donald Trump is a biased liberal who can't be trusted" defense is actually working beautifully right now. As long as they have full commitment from the roster Trump can literally do anything he wants. The system works!
The only way to save trump from this is to tear apart the goverment and the country and that is what they Republicains are doing, it's sad.
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:23 PM   #15
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If trumpettes like it, it must be shit.
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