The 2nd Amendment Thread

[MTK]

another idiot with a gun playing hero

[punch it in]

Yup, a black one , so it will be interesting to see what the extreme right wing 2nd amendment wingnuts have to say about this. If he was white it would be cut and dry. He was the victim. Now?

The little girl that lost her life is just heartbreaking. Hope the guy spends his life in jail. Hope the little girls life was worth whatever cash he was taking out of the atm.

[BaltimoreSkins]

I heard the family is suing Chase Bank hopefully they sue the douche bag too

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I heard the family is suing Chase Bank hopefully they sue the douche bag too

Douche bag doesnt have money unless he owns a 1M plus house with a 1M insurance umbrella.

Banks, stores, bars have commercial insurance policies but usually are not liable for damages caused by 3rd parties, especially criminal acts by 3rd parties ... unless you can show (1) the bank owner knew or should have known that a robbery was foreseeable (2) bc of a pattern and practice of robberies on their property, and (3) owner had time but failed to avail themselves to remedies like more security, better lighting, cameras etc and (4) a reasonable owner would have done something.


(seems like lots of concealed carry or open carry gone wrong last month or so. road rage ends up with legal gun carries pulling out their guns .. this ATM story is a bit different)

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Douche bag doesnt have money unless he owns a 1M plus house with a 1M insurance umbrella.

Banks, stores, bars have commercial insurance policies but usually are not liable for damages caused by 3rd parties, especially criminal acts by 3rd parties ... unless you can show (1) the bank owner knew or should have known that a robbery was foreseeable (2) bc of a pattern and practice of robberies on their property, and (3) owner had time but failed to avail themselves to remedies like more security, better lighting, cameras etc and (4) a reasonable owner would have done something.


(seems like lots of concealed carry or open carry gone wrong last month or so. road rage ends up with legal gun carries pulling out their guns .. this ATM story is a bit different)

So is it standard practice to sue businesses in this instance? I confess ignorance on this topic.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

So is it standard practice to sue businesses in this instance? I confess ignorance on this topic.

Standard practice to try and find the biggest pocket possible. Most of us private citizens are judgment proof, you could get a 1M judgment against me but would have to wait for me to win the lottery to collect.

You have to try and attach liability to one of the commercial parties and you (1) build up the "pattern and practice of robberies" narrative; then (2) sue the bank, property owner, security company, city, state, county, police department ...

A bank, property owner usually have an indemnification agreement so they are repped by the same firm. Here they will probably sue over 20 named defendants but only deal with maybe 2 defense attorneys.

Typically the law does not like making someone responsible for the actions of a third party, especially criminal acts, and this proving of a pattern and practice of violent crime rising to the level the bank or property owner are liable is very high and hard.

But, I imagine there is some type of crime near any given block of an urban city to try and argue "pattern and practice" but good luck, its hard.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I heard the family is suing Chase Bank hopefully they sue the douche bag too

Apparently that Chase bank was the scene of some recent crimes involving that same ATM, and Chase made no fix.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Apparently that Chase bank was the scene of some recent crimes involving that same ATM, and Chase made no fix.

Imagine if shithole parents stop raising trash criminals. That would be nice.

How about progressive piece of shit DA locking up criminals and not letting violent criminals out on bail.

How about real gun control which is mandatory sentencing of possession of an illegal gun. As illegal gun are used in 70% gun crimes…in some cities, mid 80% of all gun crime. Gun control should be strictly enforced against those who use it in crimes.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Imagine if shithole parents stop raising trash criminals. That would be nice.

How about progressive piece of shit DA locking up criminals and not letting violent criminals out on bail.

How about real gun control which is mandatory sentencing of possession of an illegal gun. As illegal gun are used in 70% gun crimes…in some cities, mid 80% of all gun crime. Gun control should be strictly enforced against those who use it in crimes.

Yeah no republicans in Texas or Florida raise criminals? Shove the progressive crap up your @#$. I want smart gun control, shit that works.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Houston is a certified shithole.

What a shitty story.

Involuntary manslaughter has to be the minimum here (if no basic facts change).

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Houston is a certified shithole.

What a shitty story.

Involuntary manslaughter has to be the minimum here (if no basic facts change).

Of course it is a shithole it is Texas. If an earthquake took the state into the Gulf of Mexico would anyone shed a tear? Probably not

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Of course it is a shithole it is Texas. If an earthquake took the state into the Gulf of Mexico would anyone shed a tear? Probably not

Just leave Austin.

[punch it in]

Still cant get over the fact that Chico referenced brainwashed people out in the street committing political violence. Fuckin hysterical. Oblivious as hell. But hysterical.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Still cant get over the fact that Chico referenced brainwashed people out in the street committing political violence. Fuckin hysterical. Oblivious as hell. But hysterical.

he is delusional as hell , he needs therapy. Seriously he does.

[MTK]

How about just some basic common fucking sense in Texas? This shit is just beyond dumb

New Texas law allowing people to carry handguns without permits stirs mix of fear, concern among law enforcement