Redskins trade for Alex Smith

[FrenchSkin]

Losing Fuller really sucks. He's going to shine.

BUT our secondary is about the only area I really don't consider like one of need (Norman, Breeland, Moreau, Dunbar, Swearinger, Nicholson, Everett).
And we basically slided down in the 3rd round.

I'd say Chiefs can be happy with the trade, they probably got a little more value than we did...

BUT I've always liked Smith quite a lot, I have him on my Dynasty League so I always kept an eye on him. He's an accurate thrower, mobile QB, doesn't make a lot of bad decisions.

Overall I'm happy to be moving on from the Cousins debacle, and I think we got a solid QB, at a reasonable price.

Keep in mind we may very well be draft a QB this year (4th round?).

(EDIT: maybe not this year but next or the year after that)

[FrenchSkin]

Question: how does it work with Smith's contract extension?

He only had 1 year left on his Chiefs contract (which makes this trade a real win for them IMO), but he reportedly "agreed" to a 4 years extension with us.

Is there anything we can do to make his extension sort of part of the trade? Like if he doesn't sign it the trade is void ?

[CRedskinsRule]

People were going to hate how this ended no matter what. CB was and is a position of depth for us. And Alex Smith comes in to a good offensive situation where he will flourish under Gruden.

We basically traded a young CB for a stable QB for 5 years. Unless the NFL screws us the compensatory pick the draft picks should be a wash.

This trade likely will rank like the Portis/Bailey trade. We got a little bit of a short stick but the player we got will be a good teammate for the rest of his NFL career, and except in this case the player who was the fly in the ointment was KC instead of Bailey.

Where do I get my Alex Smith jersey :

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

People were going to hate how this ended no matter what. CB was and is a position of depth for us. And Alex Smith comes in to a good offensive situation where he will flourish under Gruden.

We basically traded a young CB for a stable QB for 5 years. Unless the NFL screws us the compensatory pick the draft picks should be a wash.

This trade likely will rank like the Portis/Bailey trade. We got a little bit of a short stick but the player we got will be a good teammate for the rest of his NFL career, and except in this case the player who was the fly in the ointment was KC instead of Bailey.

Where do I get my Alex Smith jersey :

Yeah, no way to please all sides with how this QB situation was going to end...no matter what the solution. I think I like Alex Smith's cap hit much more than I would have liked KC's. Let's lock up Zach Brown now, Davenport in round 1, OL in round 2...

[mahomes]

Hello folks chief's fan here not to gloat at all but offer my sympathy. The worst thing about alex smith is the minnions you will get here.
They follow him not a team it is jim jones cult like creepy. I am sure you guys are like us and argue about draft picks and coaches like all fans but come gametime you are redskin fans. These people will come aboard and act like redskin fans but are alexsexuals. They made our chief's boards miserable.
When you lose it will be everyone's fault but alex. They will tell you that you are not a true redskin fan. That's right these idiots will tell you how to root for your team. Don't let alex only fans be a divisive force on your board. I have done my duty you have been warned.

[skinsfan69]

I swear, our front office just sucks the fucking fan out of me. We just don't have competent people at the top of the organization.

[irish]

I thought the FO would find a way to screw this up but I never dreamed they'd botch it this bad. The Chiefs have to be laughing their A$$es of at this fleece job.

[skinsfaninok]

WHy are u guys mad? Alex is a good proven winner, KC never won games. Both put up great numbers, SMith is older but for 3 years he'll shine in jays system... We had to make a move and they are paying him 23M a yr, not 28 OR 30. Fuller is a good player but that is the nature of the beast.. I am just happy its over

[Buffalo Bob]

Admitted I am new to being a Redskin fan as I adopted them as my favorite team when I escaped California to Virginia in 2011. I have followed the NFL since I was 5, and I liked many Redskin players, #44 was my favorite. When I lived in Cali I was a 49er fan for 40 years .

That being said I know all about Alex Smith, the guy that even after posting a 100 QB rating for a half season lost his job to Colin Kaepernick. Alex Smith the person is a great teammate and human being, but as an NFL QB he is nothing but a better version of Trent Dilfer. He is the quintessential game manager. I don't care about his stats, watch him play. Some guys are better than what the box score shows, others are worse. Smith is the later. He is extremely risk averse, even when caution should be thrown to the wind.

I don't understand the overwhelming joy most of you have over acquiring Smith. Next season he will have all of you pulling your hair out. With all the holes the Redskins have to plug with Smith the Redskins will be lucky to win 6 games. The benefit will be all of the 10 losses will be close, but they will be losses none the less.

[SolidSnake84]

Smith straight out of the gate got the deal that we were never willing to give Cousins. Inexplicable. We basically traded what could have been our franchise QB, for an older QB who isn't as good as who we are moving on from. I think only the Skins could do that.

I remember Alex Smith looking great at the beginning of last year, but then he was brutal for the middle of the season and towards the end. They had talked about benching him several times for Mahomes. They must have not had much faith in Colt McCoy.

I want to be positive, but this could really blow up big time. I hope the Skins were smart enough (Dan & Bruce = probably not) to have something in his contract that lets us walk away if Smith doesn't work out. I don't know how much of his guaranteed money will be at signing. The last QB trade we made for Donovan McFlabb was a complete disaster.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Smith straight out of the gate got the deal that we were never willing to give Cousins. Inexplicable. We basically traded what could have been our franchise QB, for an older QB who isn't as good as who we are moving on from. I think only the Skins could do that.

I remember Alex Smith looking great at the beginning of last year, but then he was brutal for the middle of the season and towards the end. They had talked about benching him several times for Mahomes. They must have not had much faith in Colt McCoy.

I want to be positive, but this could really blow up big time. I hope the Skins were smart enough (Dan & Bruce = probably not) to have something in his contract that lets us walk away if Smith doesn't work out. I don't know how much of his guaranteed money will be at signing. The last QB trade we made for Donovan McFlabb was a complete disaster.

Smith took the deal we were willing to offer Cousins. And it is appropriate to Smith (and KCs) value.

I bet KCs total value on his new contract will fall around what we paid Smith. Now that there is no 3rd FT to compete against teams will put a real value on KC and that's NOT top 5 money.

[KI Skins Fan]

I like Alex Smith as a player but he is not the future at QB for the Skins. I would not be a bit surprised if the Skins draft our QB of the future in the 1st or 2nd Round of this years draft. Smith will probably be our starter for two years while an apprentice studies under him.

Concerning the trade values: If we trade a 3rd Rounder to KC and pick up a 3rd Round compensatory pick for losing KC, isn't that a wash on the picks? So we only gave up Kendall Fuller in trade for Smith. How is that a bad trade?

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I like Alex Smith as a player but he is not the future at QB for the Skins. I would not be a bit surprised if the Skins draft our QB of the future in the 1st or 2nd Round of this years draft. Smith will probably be our starter for two years while an apprentice studies under him.

Concerning the trade values: If we trade a 3rd Rounder to KC and pick up a 3rd Round compensatory pick for losing KC, isn't that a wash on the picks? So we only gave up Kendall Fuller in trade for Smith. How is that a bad trade?

Well you also have to look at the entirety of the situation you cannot take the compensation for Cousins as a part of the trade without talking about the loss of Cousins, as they are two separate issues.

Part 1:
Alex Smith for Fuller and a 3rd rounder (I personally do not like the trade a journey man QB that has been ran out of two teams for two players that would be cheap and one that was on the upswing is a loss to me)
Part 2:
Kirk Cousins for a 3rd round compensatory pick (Anyway you slice it this is a loss)

All they did was try to minimize the embarrassment of the Kirk contracts.

FWIW we are getting dragged through the coals for this in the Baltimore sports media. Not a surprise because they hate the Skins.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I like Alex Smith as a player but he is not the future at QB for the Skins. I would not be a bit surprised if the Skins draft our QB of the future in the 1st or 2nd Round of this years draft. Smith will probably be our starter for two years while an apprentice studies under him.

Concerning the trade values: If we trade a 3rd Rounder to KC and pick up a 3rd Round compensatory pick for losing KC, isn't that a wash on the picks? So we only gave up Kendall Fuller in trade for Smith. How is that a bad trade?

Here's why. Because you just lost your best corner on an already bad defense. That doesn't make your bad defense any better. If it was Cravens I could stomach this, but Fuller was a building block and a guy you can't trade.

Keeping the 3rd rounder, signing a vet to compete w/ Colt and drafting someone was the smarter thing to do. But hey, Bruce knows how manage QB's of an NFL franchise. Just look at his past.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Here's why. Because you just lost your best corner on an already bad defense. That doesn't make your bad defense any better. If it was Cravens I could stomach this, but Fuller was a building block and a guy you can't trade.

Keeping the 3rd rounder, signing a vet to compete w/ Colt and drafting someone was the smarter thing to do. But hey, Bruce knows how manage QB's of an NFL franchise. Just look at his past.

Just remember the whole world said we got robbed of the RG3 trade too and the Rams ended up getting basically nothing for years until Mcvay came. We'll see what happens, if Smith leads us to the playoffs next yr all will be forgotten