Reasons for drafting Sanchez

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

This is an old, tired debate. Sanchez is not the reason the Jets are winning, nor has he cost them an important game. He has the same ingredients Flacco had last year, an outstanding D, run game, and OLine. His stats are worse than Campbell by far, but the fact is he is in the Conference championship. If you ask me what that proves, it is that this game is played and won by teams, not by a single positional player. The focus on Campbell or any "skill position" is opposite to this fundamental truth of football, it is a TEAM sport.

I know Shanahan and Allen understand this concept, so if they want to leave JC, a solid team player if not an exceptional qb, I am ok with that. We can do mighty things if we have a leader who is leading our 53 men into the weekly battle.

Good stuff here...

[Kalisto2010]

One more thing I'd like to add. Living in the Bay-Area, naturally I listen to local sports radio stations daily. And the myriad of excuses that JC's fans make for him, are the same excuses being made for Alex Smith. It's everyone else's fault that the team isn't winning but his. They blame the offensive line, even though Sean Hill played behind the same offensive line, the only difference his, he's 7-0 at home, has an overall winning record, while Alex Smith is deplorable at home, and has a losing record. I can't wait to hear everyones excuses for JC next year, once O-line isn't an issue. He's still going to play to conservative, unable to read defenses, and will fail to lead us to one playoff victory.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Kalisto2010

One more thing I'd like to add. Living in the Bay-Area, naturally I listen to local sports radio stations daily. And the myriad of excuses that JC's fans make for him, are the same excuses being made for Alex Smith. It's everyone else's fault that the team isn't winning but his. They blame the offensive line, even though Sean Hill played behind the same offensive line, the only difference his, he's 7-0 at home, has an overall winning record, will Alex Smith is deplorable at home, and has a losing record. I can't wait to hear everyones excuses for JC next year, once O-line isn't an issue. He's still going to play to conservative, unable to read defenses, and will fail to lead us to one playoff victory.

Well, I'm sure Shanahan will not hesitate to pull Campbell. Although I'm glad to hear that you can't wait for him to fail. Regardless of whether JC does well or not, this team is not going to be built overnight in one season. We have a lot of holes to fill, and it will start with the o-line.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by Kalisto2010

One more thing I'd like to add. Living in the Bay-Area, naturally I listen to local sports radio stations daily. And the myriad of excuses that JC's fans make for him, are the same excuses being made for Alex Smith. It's everyone else's fault that the team isn't winning but his. They blame the offensive line, even though Sean Hill played behind the same offensive line, the only difference his, he's 7-0 at home, has an overall winning record, while Alex Smith is deplorable at home, and has a losing record. I can't wait to hear everyones excuses for JC next year, once O-line isn't an issue. He's still going to play to conservative, unable to read defenses, and will fail to lead us to one playoff victory.

First of all, it's Shaun Hill. Secondly, I haven't heard a single person on this site who realistically thinks that Campbell is the future of the franchise or a Manning-esque player who is going to lead the team to greatness. How many times does it need to be said? The guy is serviceable and games *and yes, even championships* can be won with a guy like that in there if you get your priorities straight in all the other areas.

I love when guys come out of the woodwork to create these straw man JC boosters who don't exist. Most of us who aren't calling for the guy's head on a pike merely think he's tough, mobile, has good character, and is accurate enough to get the job done playing Redskins football. That is, if we get back to what that means and get a decent O-Line and running game going again.

But hey, don't let that get in the way of an opportunity to drop an advance "told you so" in here.

[Son Of Man]

As a rookie, Sanchez is a better leader/player than jason is after 5 seasons. Period!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

As a rookie, Sanchez is a better leader/player than jason is after 5 seasons. Period!

I'm sorry but making these generic base-less (sp?) statements are getting really old. Sanchez in this Jets team is a better player than a lot of other QBs. I'd like to see what Sanchez would have done with our terrible offensive line and spotty running game. Very few QBs would be successful in the mess of a team that we had this past year.

Sanchez should consider himself lucky not to have been drafted by Washington and turning into another Patrick Ramsey. Instead, he will develop into a very good (if not great) QB in a team that had already built an outstanding offensive line, a great running game, and an elite defense.

I hope that the success of this Jets team has taught our owner (and a few simple-minded fans) the importance of building up a team in the trenches, before bringing in a young talented QB.

[Kalisto2010]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I hope that the success of this Jets team has taught our owner (and a few simple-minded fans) the importance of building up a team in the trenches, before bringing in a young talented QB.

I agree that offensive lines are vitally important. However, did the Saints or the Colts build up their offensive lines before they brought in Drew Bree's or Peyton? Did the Pittsburgh Steelers build up their Offensive line prior to drafting Ben? Lastly, the Patriots have only drafted one o-lineman in the first round since year 2000. Granted, they did draft 2 o-lineman in the second rounds, but I'm just having a hard time finding any historical evidence to support your theory of building a line before filling the most important position on the field, QB.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

As a rookie, Sanchez is a better leader/player than jason is after 5 seasons. Period!

That's just idiotic. Sanchez had little if no effect on the Jets' success this season, they're starting 4 first-round picks on the O-line, had the #1 defense in the NFL and one of the best running games also.

All Sanchez had to do was hand off the ball without dropping it.

[Kalisto2010]

Originally Posted by Buster

That's just idiotic. Sanchez had little if no effect on the Jets' success this season, they're starting 4 first-round picks on the O-line, had the #1 defense in the NFL and one of the best running games also.

All Sanchez had to do was hand off the ball without dropping it.

Come on, you have to give the guy some credit. He played well enough for the Jets to win yesterday. He gave the overrated Jets D an 11 point lead. He made a lot of clutch 3rd down conversions. He also threaded a few beauties on the sideline to Cotchery. A 139, and a 93 passer rating for your first 2 playoff games are far above average.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Buster

That's just idiotic. Sanchez had little if no effect on the Jets' success this season, they're starting 4 first-round picks on the O-line, had the #1 defense in the NFL and one of the best running games also.

All Sanchez had to do was hand off the ball without dropping it.

early on in the season, yes. but as the season went on, sanchez got better and better. sanchez also made several GREAT plays against the colts sunday and really impressed me. he's nowhere near being an elite QB yet, but he has all the makings of becoming one. I fully expect him to be one of the top 3 QBs in the league within 3-5 years. He certainly looked better than any of the other QBs in last years draft and this upcoming one. Not really relevant to the Redskins though.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by Buster

That's just idiotic. Sanchez had little if no effect on the Jets' success this season, they're starting 4 first-round picks on the O-line, had the #1 defense in the NFL and one of the best running games also.

All Sanchez had to do was hand off the ball without dropping it.

Sanchez is doing what Big Ben was asked to do his first year in the league. What Matty Ice and Flacco did last year. However, in the post-season he showed fantastic leadership skills and a passion for the game. He stood tall and gave the Jets fan base legitimate reason to look forward to him as future of their franchise. JC has been here for 3 and a half seasons as a starter (Brunell started the first 24 games of JC's career) and has never made us feel as secure as Jets fans must feel about Sanchez.

[Kalisto2010]

Originally Posted by dgack

First of all, it's Shaun Hill.

Really, your going to play the grammar card?

dgackThe guy is serviceable and games *and yes, even championships*

While your at it, you'll probably want to correct your own errors first before hastily correcting mine. You can start with this sentence. I can play grammar nazi too.

[Hogroll]

Originally Posted by Kalisto2010

Really, your going to play the grammar card?



While your at it, you'll probably want to correct your own errors first before hastily correcting mine. You can start with this sentence. I can play grammar nazi too.

Sorry, just being a smarta$$ here; doing nothing more than pointing out irony.

[Kalisto2010]

Originally Posted by Hogroll

Sorry, just being a smarta$$ here; doing nothing more than pointing out irony.

And I'm doing the same with you.

Hogroll: I don't know, good think Gilbert from Texas is only a Freshman...

Good think Gilbert? just being a smarta$$ here; doing nothing more than pointing out irony since you really meant to say good thing

One more for the road.

Originally Posted by Hogroll

Now, that is funny stuff!

Now, that's funny stuff. Fixed.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by Kalisto2010

Really, your going to play the grammar card?

I'm assuming the misuse of "your" was intentional. If not, /facepalm.

Pointing out that you misspelled Shaun Hill's name isn't playing the grammar card, it's correcting a dude's name.

If you're going to start off an argument by telling us that you're extremely familiar with the team that you're local to, which you believe has a very similar QB situation to our own, you *might* want to get the players' names right. Just saying.

Originally Posted by Kalisto2010

While your at it, you'll probably want to correct your own errors first before hastily correcting mine. You can start with this sentence.

I don't need to start with that sentence. It reads as intended. If you're not capable of comprehending it, that's not really my concern.

Originally Posted by Kalisto2010

I can play grammar nazi too.

You can play middle linebacker, for all I care. That doesn't mean you're any good at it.